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Mleeja 07-12-2023 08:57 PM

I am interested in what one calls a “short term rental”. There was a news report on Fox 35 today about a neighborhood concerned about short term rentals. It is not a unique situation to The Villages.

Brevard County residents frustrated over influx of Airbnb'''s, short-term rentals taking over community

margaretmattson 07-12-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2234696)
This gives me yet another reason to be grateful I live in the Historic Section. Most of the properties here are manufactured homes. Any family looking to enjoy their private pool and feel like millionaires, would not be renting in our area of the Villages. Not to mention that it's around an hour JUST to get to the Turnpike from here.

Yes, indeed! We looked at new construction homes for 6 months and could not find anything worth moving there for. Higher taxes, huge bond, massive electric towers, noise from turnpike, blah, blah, blah! And, it seems like we would have to spend entire days driving around just to do errands. Here, we can be anywhere in minutes or have things delivered in minutes. Looking at preowned homes now. Who knows? It sounds great in the historic section! Maybe we will be neighbors!

margaretmattson 07-12-2023 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2234684)
I am a short-term renter right now and you should say ‘some short-term’ tenants. We are renting this house for two weeks trying to decide if we like TV enough to move here. (I’ve already made up my mind, but the Hubby is still sitting on the fence) The point is that without the right to come and stay you will have less people buying, and the the neighborhood loses value.

I do not believe there is one villager who has a problem with renters like yourself. It is how we all came to the villages ourselves. Please do not be offended by this post.

The concern we have are short term renters who are underage, have no plans of purchasing a home, and who's primary reason for being here is to have a good time. Some stay for just one day ; some a few nights. And, the majority about a week.- often with a sizeable group pooling the cost to safe money.

People coming and going leaving their trash behind. During their stay, all types of disrespectful antics that you would expect of a younger crowd on vacation. Like I said, sometimes I feel like a babysitter.

Normal 07-13-2023 02:01 AM

Sue
 
It may be time for neighbors to start suing landlords who operate short term rentals STRs for violations of operating a continued business. It only takes a few. There is no reason a homeowner should bear the burden of someone else for the purpose of quick cash. Get your ducks in a row. Take pictures, times and dates, records etc. Call when infractions of rules exist and push these clowns out of our retirement community.

The landlords are leeches on the rest of us.

Sandy and Ed 07-13-2023 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2234713)
It may be time for neighbors to start suing landlords who operate short term rentals STRs for violations of operating a continued business. It only takes a few. There is no reason a homeowner should bear the burden of someone else for the purpose of quick cash. Get your ducks in a row. Take pictures, times and dates, records etc. Call when infractions of rules exist and push these clowns out of our retirement community.

The landlords are leeches on the rest of us.

I don’t want to agree but…..absentee landlords who cater to short term weekly B&B tenants???? I wouldn’t consider those villa owners to be good neighbors so why not report them when things get out of hand?? The Villages has programs for those wanting to test the waters here.

banjobob 07-13-2023 06:55 AM

The Developer is responsible for interior deed compliance , seems to be just an empty suit place holder of the family just getting a paycheck for doing nothing. Daily , weekly rentals in a retirement community is absurd, 2 month minimum rentals only. Stone Crest has the answer 2 .,month minimum on rentals.

Normal 07-13-2023 07:05 AM

Peasants
 
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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2234808)
The Developer is responsible for interior deed compliance , seems to be just an empty suit place holder of the family just getting a paycheck for doing nothing. Daily , weekly rentals in a retirement community is absurd, 2 month minimum rentals only. Stone Crest has the answer 2 .,month minimum on rentals.

Go after the guys at the bottom of the food chain first. Then the top will capitulate. Eventually the peasants “landlords” will not care for the thought of themselves being sued because of loss of property value etc. A place you paid for, they continue to leech value from. Just make a slum village where all there are are rentals. Leave the decent folks who wanted to retire in their dream homes alone.

ILLINOIS RAY 07-13-2023 07:33 AM

Stop with the quotes. Very annoying

Stu from NYC 07-13-2023 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLINOIS RAY (Post 2234837)
Stop with the quotes. Very annoying

How else would we know who people are responding too?

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-13-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLINOIS RAY (Post 2234837)
Stop with the quotes. Very annoying

Who are you talking to? You know, there's a quote button you can use, so people know who you're responding to.

Just sayin...

Normal 07-13-2023 07:45 AM

Disclosure
 
Florida Disclosure Law for property sales:

In Johnson vs. Davis, the Florida Supreme Court held that “where the seller of a home knows of facts materially affecting the value of the property which are not readily observable and are not known to the buyer, the seller is under a duty to disclose them to the buyer.” This obligation extends to licensees and, per Section 475.278, Florida Statutes, all licensees have a legal obligation to disclose all known facts that materially affect the value of residential real property and are not readily observable to the buyer.

Obviously it includes all false or temporary perceptions not visible to the buyer. Knowledge of neighborhood structural advancements, rentals etc. all apply to the law. The Villages even goes into the facades of deed restrictions to preserve your value of property. Where someone would really have a good case is if a sales agent said,”You could always rent out the property. Everyone does it.” This would be a major issue and violate disclosure laws.

Vermilion Villager 07-13-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2234528)
Still a very quiet community in the villages where we are.

So are you trying to say "as long as it doesn't affect me directly it's not an issue"? :ohdear:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-13-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2234704)
Yes, indeed! We looked at new construction homes for 6 months and could not find anything worth moving there for. Higher taxes, huge bond, massive electric towers, noise from turnpike, blah, blah, blah! And, it seems like we would have to spend entire days driving around just to do errands. Here, we can be anywhere in minutes or have things delivered in minutes. Looking at preowned homes now. Who knows? It sounds great in the historic section! Maybe we will be neighbors!

It has its good aspects and not so good aspects. It depends on what you want from a neighborhood. My specific neighborhood is fairly close, it's away from the main road but close enough to walk to the postal station and the Country Club pool. Our neighbors all know each other and watch out for each other, we have impromptu driveway parties that just sort of happen when one of us is sitting out on the driveway watching the world go buy. People going for their daily walk show up, see us, and we pull up a chair and eventually we end up with half a dozen neighbors shooting the sh!t in the driveway, enjoying the evening.

The landscaping is matured, tall water oaks, laurels, and maples to shade the yards. Most of the streets are wide enough that your guests can park on the side of the road without it causing traffic problems.

We don't have that issue of "kissing lanais." Spanish Spring town square is a 7-minute drive by car, a 5-minute drive by golf cart, from my house. Reason it's faster by golf cart: no red lights. We get a golf cart bridge that takes us over 441, so we never had to wait for the light to turn green in order to cross it. On the other side of the bridge - is a parking lot for the Square. So we never have to even drive INTO the square. We can park right there, and walk to the corner and take a right and boom - we're at the square.

Publix is only 1 minute further. Walmart is the same distance in a different direction by golf cart, so are a variety of restaurants, shops, and medical offices including the outpatient surgery center for the hospital.

There is rarely a "lot" of traffic and most of it is golf carts. Within the neighborhood clusters themselves, most of the traffic is pedestrian. People around here really enjoy walking.

On the downside: manufactured homes. Some of them are old, and even fit into the official "mobile home" category. Single-wides that are a bit run down and need rehab or replacement. There aren't many of those, and they're all in the Silver Lake area. Up in my area (the northern section of Orange Blossom Gardens and western area of Country Club Hills) you'll see a lot of 1985 double-wides and modular homes, or combination of the two (like ours). The structure is off the ground, there's no foundation, and in the older ones, the floorboards are particle board that can swell and warp if (for instance) your dishwasher breaks or a pipe bursts in the bathroom. If there's never any water damage you're fine but that water damage can mean you need to replace the whole floor. Some newer ones have plywood subfloors, and some of the old ones have had the particle board replaced already. It's something to be aware of when looking for a home up here.

Escape Artist 07-13-2023 07:58 AM

I’m still shocked that anyone of any age can buy a home in TV. So of course you’re going to get investors, flippers, those looking to rent the home and never occupy it, etc. Did TV change their convenants or has it always been this way? In the past, with other age restricted communities like Sun City, financing was not allowed using VA loans because of this restriction. You had to be at least 55 to purchase a home.

oldtimes 07-13-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2234861)
I’m still shocked that anyone of any age can buy a home in TV. So of course you’re going to get investors, flippers, those looking to rent the home and never occupy it, etc. Did TV change their convenants or has it always been this way? In the past, with other age restricted communities like Sun City, financing was not allowed using VA loans because of this restriction. You had to be at least 55 to purchase a home.

The Villages did not change their covenants they just chose not to enforce them. The Villages is not truly an over 55 retirement community anymore. Some will say that legally it is but in spirit it is not.


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