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biker1 06-06-2020 06:11 PM

Pretty much not true. The majority of Federal tax revenues come from individual Federal income tax which are paid directly to the Federal Government. Payroll taxes are the next biggest chunk of Federal tax revenue and that also goes directly to the Federal Government. The states don't collect those taxes. It would be true to say that higher income individuals, regardless of where they live, pay more taxes because the tax system is progressive. Some blue states have serious financial problems because of poor management.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778815)
Well in part, because most blue states collect the highest amount of tax dollars, much of which is then paid to the federal government to cover social service expenses for states that collect the lowest amount of tax dollars - which happens to be the red states.

Go figure. Blue gets poor paying for red, and red demands lower taxes.


Stu from NYC 06-06-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1778796)
Curious observation. The Unions typically back Democrats. Most cities that Democrats control are basically broke.

Chicago, Detroit, Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angles, New York, Philadelphia, etc.

Why ? :shocked:

Amazing how these cities are so poorly run and the same people get reelected.

Topspinmo 06-06-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1778600)
Yes, it's worse than that. They are destroying young kids' minds with revolutionary Marxist dogma.


Hey, you mentioned teachers unions I didn’t. Sorry clicked on wrong post somehow

600th Photo Sq 06-06-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778815)
Well in part, because most blue states collect the highest amount of tax dollars, much of which is then paid to the federal government to cover social service expenses for states that collect the lowest amount of tax dollars - which happens to be the red states.

Go figure. Blue gets poor paying for red, and red demands lower taxes.

The Unions demand unrealistic benefits long term. Great until ya run out of money.

Sorry members we did our best, meanwhile the pink slips follow.

The Big Shot's ? Retired somewhere warm and sunny. Living the good life.

The members ? Who knows , Who cares.

John_W 06-06-2020 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1778840)
Amazing how these cities are so poorly run and the same people get reelected.

The Blind Leading the Blind!!!

bd20166 06-07-2020 05:33 AM

A more accountable police force equals a more accountable public. Think about it.

iht2209 06-07-2020 05:38 AM

Lol really .... I hardly think they have the same capital as a corporate lobbyist. I would suspect 90 % of the politician’s today are owned by several companies and or counties. I really don’t believe unions have enough money to compete.

Windguy 06-07-2020 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1778600)
Yes, it's worse than that. They are destroying young kids' minds with revolutionary Marxist dogma.

That evoked belly laughs from me.

jakers 06-07-2020 05:46 AM

Teachers don’t normally have to deal with criminals or wrestle with gangbangers and
all sorts of armed bad guys on the street everyday.
The police have a hard job. Without the support of governmental leaders, we won’t have anyone willing to do the job. Who you gonna call...Ghostbusters?!

jakers 06-07-2020 05:47 AM

Teachers don’t normally have to deal with criminals or wrestle with gangbangers and
all sorts of armed bad guys on the street everyday.
The police have a hard job. Without the support of governmental leaders, we won’t have anyone willing to do the job. Who you gonna call...Ghostbusters?!

Stu from NYC 06-07-2020 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by iht2209 (Post 1778935)
Lol really .... I hardly think they have the same capital as a corporate lobbyist. I would suspect 90 % of the politician’s today are owned by several companies and or counties. I really don’t believe unions have enough money to compete.

Does not cost that much to buy a congressman. 100,000 or so gets you one or two

huange@verizon.net 06-07-2020 06:09 AM

Unions?
 
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1778588)
Yeah BUT, the last I checked we don't have a real problem with teachers killing, or even using excessive force...with their students. :oops:

OP was about police unions. How did you segue to teachers? But, since you brought them up, how about sex with minors? Not killing nor excessive force, nor as frequent, but illegal whereas killing and excessive force may be justifiable in certain circumstances (armed assaults, terrorism, robberies).

J1ceasar 06-07-2020 06:09 AM

Unions and management suck
 
Unions got workers healthcare and $60 an hour .
But unions killed GM and Chrysler etc . you see there is no middle ground to be fair in business or public works . everyone wants MORE . you can say because of unions and over regulation , China has succeeded in taking over our manufacturing.

Neils 06-07-2020 06:28 AM

Attitude change needed
 
Retrain and instill a new (old) attitude through the ranks.

Job should be to “Protect and SERVE” Not just “Law Enforcement”

Huge difference

Andy G didnt usually carry a gun but got his job done.

Stop dressing and arming officers to look like storm troopers

kenoc7 06-07-2020 06:52 AM

Children's minds
 
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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1778600)
Yes, it's worse than that. They are destroying young kids' minds with revolutionary Marxist dogma.

That is absurd.


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