[justjim]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

The PROBLEM is the definition of BOTH -

Absentee vote is ACTIVE - must request a ballot and prove who you are.

Universal Mail-in - PASSIVE. Potentially everyone legal age to vote can be mailed a ballot.

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When votes come back into the election office to be counted they are checked to see if they are registered and their signature is checked against the signature when they registered. The fact is there are checks and balances when voting by mail.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Hoosierb4

I agree that 4 days is too short a time. It should be changed to a week or more. But, I disagree with the idea (opening post on this thread) that it's too late now to add funding to get it done. Overtime, temporary workers, and other things are bound to help get the mail moving.

Yes, it can be done, however let’s keep in mind....Postmaster General has been fired, replaced by a large donor....much of the operational team has been replaced,.....sorters are one important piece of machinery are being taken out of distribution centers, and up until a day or so ago, actual mailboxes removed from corners. That, in addition to postal employees being told to charge more for ballots.

All attempts to dissuade mail ballots, and cause chaos and confusion.

I do not profess to know all, but read that procedures have been changed that no longer require all mail to be physically delivered.

It is a mess and being used relative to November. Never thought this could happen in my country.

But, if the postal employees are allowed they want to get it done.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by justjim

When votes come back into the election office to be counted they are checked to see if they are registered and their signature is checked against the signature when they registered. The fact is there are checks and balances when voting by mail.

And who are these handwriting experts?

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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gee whiz, I don't believe the old system will work in today's world. I mean if we don't flood the country with mail-in voting forms...How will the dead people, pets, illegals, folks on deathbeds - with others voting for them, etc etc VOTE? not fair to any of them....

Opinion | Why Vote-by-Mail Could be a Legal Nightmare in November - POLITICO
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Golly, does that mean I can't fill out the ballot for my illegal pet anymore just because he died?
You do realize that the article you linked doesn't warn of any of the nightmare scenarios you present, right? In fact, even though it mentions the probability of vote-counting disputes, clerical errors, etc, it does state that "There’s no question that, for public health reasons, expanding vote-by-mail is a wise decision for states to be making right now." I guess you got the idea of "dead people, pets, illegals, folks on deathbeds" voting somewhere else...

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by roscoguy

"There’s no question that, for public health reasons, expanding vote-by-mail is a wise decision for states to be making right now."

So tell us,
what was the reason before the pandemic came along for a push in universal mail-in voting?

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Yes, it can be done, however let’s keep in mind....Postmaster General has been fired, replaced by a large donor....much of the operational team has been replaced,.....sorters are one important piece of machinery are being taken out of distribution centers, and up until a day or so ago, actual mailboxes removed from corners. That, in addition to postal employees being told to charge more for ballots.

All attempts to dissuade mail ballots, and cause chaos and confusion.

I do not profess to know all, but read that procedures have been changed that no longer require all mail to be physically delivered.

It is a mess and being used relative to November. Never thought this could happen in my country.

But, if the postal employees are allowed they want to get it done.

The assumption is that "most or all persons cannot get up and put on a mask and go to a polling station just like they did before a mask was part of the equation. (A very low expectation)

But we do expect them to be able to go to the store and buy food and other stuff. We expect working people to go to work. I see people of all ages and physical conditions playing golf, walking etc.

If someone is truly in need of vote by mail , absentee ballots are available as usual. No change in the system is required. No extra money. We already have multiple voting dates to accommodate schedules.

[mtdjed]

Just for those that feel a need for an opportunity to vote. This is a schedule that gives every one in Florida a chance to be heard.

Sept. 19: Absentee ballots sent to overseas voters for the general election.

Sept. 24-Oct. 1: Absentee ballots are sent to domestic voters for the general election.

Oct. 5: Deadline to register to vote in the general election.

Oct. 19-Nov. 1: Early voting days for the general election.

Nov. 3: General election day. Absentee ballots must reach the supervisor of elections office, whether mailed in or delivered in person, by 7 p.m. on this day.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Marvic 1

The Post Office could use the money for other reasons but not from money allocated to the pandemic crisis.
Covid-19 pandemic is the NEW excuse for "Mail in Voting", mail in voting has been pushed even before this virus existed.
Keep the system the way its been for centuries, physical attended voting...

Postal voting began during the Civil War.

That's how it's been since 1861. The Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776. So "for centuries" - is just meaningless blather.

[tvbound]

"but no states send ballots out to people who are not registered to vote."


That's the bottom line, case closed.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"but no states send ballots out to people who are not registered to vote."


That's the bottom line, case closed.

Don't think that is a decision that is made by someone in The Villages.

How do you know what the new States in the game are going to do? What address do they send the Ballot to? What happens if I moved and do not get the ballot? What happened to the ballot that was sent to me that I did not receive? What happens to the ballot that was sent to my dead parent?

Those are simple questions and have no real answers. There are plenty more. That is why the current system allows for more assurances of legitimacy and I can be sure my vote has a better chance to be counted. I am at the poll, God forgive show my ID, get a ballot and vote, watch it be processed, and take my sore 76 year old body home and be proud that I did my patriotic duty to vote. Never had a problem wondering whether my vote was counted, on time or in question.

[blklabfan]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"but no states send ballots out to people who are not registered to vote."


That's the bottom line, case closed.

A Nevada county mailed out 1.3 million ballots for its primary election but 1 in 5 were never delivered --Business Insider 08/15/20