Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1832729)

I'm afraid to say, there are a handful of our fellow Americans who have become wack jobs when it comes to wearing a mask. I feel sorry employees who have to deal with these situations........

Maskless woman at KFC hops on counter, demands service after being asked to comply with COVID rules | Fox News

California McDonald’s employee assaulted by customer in drive-thru window over mask policy | Fox News

Burger King customer throws tape dispenser at worker over face mask policy: report | Fox News

Originally Posted by Mikey Osmond (Post 1832945)

Good points, OrangeBlossomBaby! In most of the videos of people being resistant to wearing masks I've seen the individual looked to be at least middle aged. Not to mention participation trophies have been around since World War I so you can't even put that on Millennials and Gen Zers. Entitlement knows no generation.

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1833121)

There’s nothing wrong with wearing a mask in a store if you choose. There’s also nothing wrong with not wearing one if you choose and don’t believe in them. So many people are missing the point. This is the United States of America. We don’t just fall in line every time somebody says to do this or do that regardless of whether it makes any sense or not.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1832913)

In Ohio Dr. Amy Acton, the state’s director of health, resigned after she and her family were threatened by people showing up at her house, waving flags and carrying assault weapons and signs saying, “No violence — yet.”

Dr. Acton had dared to encourage mask-wearing — but gave up after being terrorized by pseudo-patriots.

Another woman doctor was recently appointed to take Dr. Acton’s place. She withdrew before she even started the job — cited “personal reasons” — a.k.a. threats.

I am in total shock that people I know can support this kind of America.

Do they even know these things are happening? If so, how can they support it — by what they say — or with sinister, tacit approval? (shudder)

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1833123)

Well, this is what I had heard regarding a state of emergency in a state.. That said, I totally agree with you. We are Americans in the Constitution provides us our civil liberties. Nothing can override that.

Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1833053)

I've found that as long as I wear the mask under my chin that everyone is satisfied. I can lift it up if a cough or sneeze comes along. Just common sense.

Originally Posted by Mikey Osmond (Post 1832945)

Good points, OrangeBlossomBaby! In most of the videos of people being resistant to wearing masks I've seen the individual looked to be at least middle aged. Not to mention participation trophies have been around since World War I so you can't even put that on Millennials and Gen Zers. Entitlement knows no generation.

Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1833050)

The measures taken in the US are certainly not draconian and in fact for the most part have been weak, undermined, and unenforced. If you think the measures her are draconian check out Australia where there have been relatively few cases and very few deaths. I wonder why?

Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 1833074)

Why are the orange worshipers such crybabies?

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1833052)

Curious your use of words. Americans have become wack jobs because they refuse to obey a ridiculous mandate that these retail businesses have no power to demand! Only a governor while implementing a state of emergency can mandate the mandatory wearing of masks. Our governor has not done that. What is frustrating is the paranoid sheep that are doing everything they are told walking around looking ridiculous even when driving in cars by themselves or golf carts by themselves. You cannot hide from a virus. Many epidemiologist have determined that these masks are useless. Looking forward to the day this ridiculous paranoia ends.

Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1833053)

I've found that as long as I wear the mask under my chin that everyone is satisfied. I can lift it up if a cough or sneeze comes along. Just common sense.

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1833070)

No, even a governor does NOT have that power under the Constitution of the United States. A "state of emergency" does not trump the US Constitution.

A portion of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

Once you accept masks and other BS, will you hand over your guns when they declare another "state of emergency".

What are the limits of a state of emergency? Answer: the US Constitution.

Originally Posted by KRM0614 (Post 1833113)

By the same token those with breathing issues should not be judged

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1833121)

There’s nothing wrong with wearing a mask in a store if you choose. There’s also nothing wrong with not wearing one if you choose and don’t believe in them. So many people are missing the point. This is the United States of America. We don’t just fall in line every time somebody says to do this or do that regardless of whether it makes any sense or not.

Originally Posted by riamd1954 (Post 1833137)

I’m totally sick of masks and believe it is necessary currently but we’ll see after keep????

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1832881)

Only the first of the three links gave any indication of the attackers' ages. The first was the video, and the woman looked to be in her 20's or 30's. That would mean hm - oh yeah. The age of your grandchildren. So - participating trophies and time-outs provided by people the age of your kids. Which one of you taught your kids that it was acceptable to provide time-outs and participation trophies to their kids? Cause the idea didn't come out of a zebra's butt.

Meanwhile, we don't know the ages of the other two. If one of them was in their 70's, would you accuse fox of reporting age discriminatory fake news? Or would you just accept that some people are screwed up in the head?

Are you so sure that participation trophies and time outs are the reason why some people act out? Are you really and truly sure? How many folks here have a relative over the age of 40, who has either been in jail, been in a fight, gotten a ticket for reckless driving, been accused of a crime, participated in any kind of protest at all, drove drunk (whether or not they got caught)...

How many of you even KNOW if you have a relative who fits the above criteria?

Believe me - it's not the result of participation trophies and time outs. I never got either and I did my share of acting out when I was young. For me it was a matter of "you and what army are going to STOP me from doing whatever I want?" Time out? Pfft. There's no lock on my door. Participation trophy? Screw that, I want to WIN. If I can't win, then I don't deserve a trophy. We used to get those in bowling league, I thought it was a huge waste of league money.

Originally Posted by Art Gariepy (Post 1833245)

That’s the point. You “have to wear a mask”— it doesn’t say where.

Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1833161)

Just looked it up. As of this yesterday’s close, 9-14-20, total Florida cases of Caronavirus is 666,000, total deaths in Florida blamed by coronavirus 12,600. THAT IS 1.8% death rate. I am so over the fear of contracting this virus. If people are waiting for this virus to be eradicated from existence, it’s never gonna happen vaccine or no vaccine. Dangerous viruses from many many years ago are still killing people today. The SARS virus and swine flu are still killing people today and it’s been 12 years. Life is a risk. Wash your hands often, if you feel your health makes you at a much higher risk of death then wear your mask if that makes you feel secure. As far as me, I’m going on with my life just like before the virus. Im confident that even if I was to contract it that I will be one of the 98.2% who survive. P . S. Please don’t be taken in by those who say “ there is a possibility that if you contract this virus and recover you may have long term lung or heart issues. That is a way to make you conform to keep you in fear to the way they want you to react. They have no clue for Gods sake the virus is 6 mos old. You could say that about any virus or flu.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1832913)

In Ohio Dr. Amy Acton, the state’s director of health, resigned after she and her family were threatened by people showing up at her house, waving flags and carrying assault weapons and signs saying, “No violence — yet.”

Dr. Acton had dared to encourage mask-wearing — but gave up after being terrorized by pseudo-patriots.

Another woman doctor was recently appointed to take Dr. Acton’s place. She withdrew before she even started the job — cited “personal reasons” — a.k.a. threats.

I am in total shock that people I know can support this kind of America.

Do they even know these things are happening? If so, how can they support it — by what they say — or with sinister, tacit approval? (shudder)

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 1833130)

You have it right.

The stores are free to mandate the wearing of masks, just like customers having to wear a shirt or shoes. Non-mask wearers are free to go to another store if they don't like that. But wearing a mask seems like the most community-spirited and neighborly thing one can do.

I suspect the woman in that first video at KFC was on some sort of drug, or has mental problems. If she's carrying a blanket around with her, she's probably homeless and most likely is crazy. You have to feel sorry in that we don't have enough places for her to go to get the treatment she needs.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1833317)

All across the country good, qualified public health professionals are quitting their jobs. It is because of violent threats against their family. This is the kind of thing that will drive the US to become a 3rd world country.

Originally Posted by orangeblossombaby (Post 1833118)

see the bolded underlined thing in the quote you quoted? Life, liberty. The government cannot deprive anyone of either of those things without due process.

And so - if the general population is at risk of losing their life (to the virus) or liberty (to having to be isolated as a result of the virus) then - it is their duty to do what they can to prevent that risk of loss.

Mandating masks can reduce that risk of loss.

my life and liberty is more important than your freedom to uncover your face.

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1833024)

Not condoning these actions but I, for one, am sick and tired of the misinformation out there about the real cause of deaths, numbers of infections, false test results, masks don’t work, masks are required, etc. Never before in history have such radical steps been taken especially when such a minute percentage of deaths have occurred in relation to the entire population and tge draconian measures being taken. Then, proven treatments like Hydroxochloroquine are wittheld by the CDC and others. Never before has such a pandemic been politicized so that people don't know what or who to believe so they get very frustrated.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1833329)

It all began in the early 80s when the budgets for these mental hospitals were cut at the Federal level. They then began closing. I too feel sorry for the lady jumping on the KFC counter AND the workers who she could have hurt. They need "danger pay"!

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1833203)

Are you okay with no shoes no shirt no service, or do you go into restaurants without your shoes and shirt? What about seatbelts, do you use them? What about speed limits, they aren't for you? There is something wrong with not wearing one, we are all in this together as a society, and you are endangering others when you don't wear one. I bet you got participation trophies.

Originally Posted by Phil_Linda (Post 1833357)

donassaid,
Just a quick question. Would you still say that it is just a minute number of people if one of those was someone you loved? So easy to brush off when it is affecting others. By the way Hydroxochloroquine has NOT been approved by anyone except the ones that listen to fake news on Fox.

Originally Posted by Linnberg (Post 1833578)

I am
Confused about what the law is regarding service people. Most i
Of the servers a s bartenders at Palmer do NOT wear masks. When I ask aBout it, they all reply that their management does not require it. They said they only put one one of requested bu customer. The hostess gave me a long lecture why it is. Hoax anyway.
Is there a legal requirement still in FL that requires workers in restaurants to wear a mask?

Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1833427)

A friend of mine got terribly sick, yes Covid! after many days in bed flat on his back and feeling horrible. Family and friends thought they may loose him. A 73 yr old man that’s normally working, and full of life. He wanted to get Hydroxochloroquine, but doctors would not prescribe. He got some from South America. Took it and in 2 days felt like a new man! I don’t know anything about that medicine but I do know the man and know that he received a healing! He is in great shape. Working n going about life. I’m not arguing any position, but that stuff worked on my friend. Many didn’t think that he was going to make it. That hydro stuff worked is all I know.

Originally Posted by Linnberg (Post 1833578)

I am
Confused about what the law is regarding service people. Most i
Of the servers a s bartenders at Palmer do NOT wear masks. When I ask aBout it, they all reply that their management does not require it. They said they only put one one of requested bu customer. The hostess gave me a long lecture why it is. Hoax anyway.
Is there a legal requirement still in FL that requires workers in restaurants to wear a mask?

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1833672)

Glad to hear your friend is fine. What I have read and heard on the news is that Hydroxycloroquine together with Zinc and Zythromycin must be started within 48 hours of symptoms onset. With this regime, there has been evidence of excellent results and has saved many lives.