[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Get back to me after you actually look at the graph and especially the data in the spreadsheet. Work to understand the difference between All Deaths (column G) and Pneumonia, Influenza or COVID-19 Deaths (PIC) (column K).

Big Pharma

[Larchap49]

Speaking about Big Pharma, isn't covid a souped up cold virus and hasn't big Pharma said for decades there is no cure for the common cold? I would like to know them how suddenly in less than a year they have developed not one but three vaccines that prevent covid? Has anyone who's had the vaccine gotten a cold since being vaccinated? I would be interested in that stat.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by pittta

Moderna chief medical officer who I supposed knows better than you has a different opinion
Pls read his opinion here

Bombshell: Moderna Chief Medical Officer Admits mRNA Alters DNA - The Washington Standard

Fact check shows that is fake.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

Speaking about Big Pharma, isn't covid a souped up cold virus and hasn't big Pharma said for decades there is no cure for the common cold? I would like to know them how suddenly in less than a year they have developed not one but three vaccines that prevent covid? Has anyone who's had the vaccine gotten a cold since being vaccinated? I would be interested in that stat.

Well, I've never heard covid being referred to as a souped up cold virus... that's a first

[Tmarkwald]

rather than repost again and again, here is the thread....

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

rather than repost again and again, here is the thread....

rather than repost again and again, here is the thread....

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

[I][B]

Nobody getting the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine is a test subject of any kind. These are not experimental vaccines in any way.

None of the vaccines currently available are approved for full use, ALL are Emergency Use only. Sooo... studies and trials.....still no APPROVED vaccines w same technology for c19 are on the market, right?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

None of the vaccines currently available are approved for full use, ALL are Emergency Use only. Sooo... studies and trials.....still no APPROVED vaccines w same technology for c19 are on the market, right?

Pfizer has applied for full FDA approval and Moderna will be applying later this month. Full FDA approval for mRNA vaccines is coming. You will need a new concern to voice.

Covid vaccines: What full FDA approval means for you

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Pfizer has applied for full FDA approval and Moderna will be applying later this month. Full FDA approval for mRNA vaccines is coming. You will need a new concern to voice.

Covid vaccines: What full FDA approval means for you

How will the FDA justify full approval though? I mean, on average it takes 5 - 10 years to get a vaccine approved, but they'll approve this one in a year? Even before any short-term effects are truly known. Will the FDA do that to Americans? Either way, there currently are no fully-approved c19 vaxs on the market, correct? AND that was the point of my post, pointing out that what was said was terribly inaccurate, all the c19 vaxs ARE experimental.

[bobdeb]

Someone very close and dear to me doesn't take a single medication. Is thankfully healthy and alert and abounds with energy. This is a senior woman who won't take even an aspirin or any pill for an ache or pain. NOTHING!

Guess what? She's run more marathons (many with me) than you can count on your fingers and toes. She still works full time and is the most giving person imaginable.

So guess what on covid vaccines?

Yes, I have been vaccinated. My choice, but I'm not into control as some of you seem. I respect individuals who may wish to determine for themselves when and if the time is right for them.

[bobdeb]

And I would add, she has never had the flu, or even received the flu shot.

[Gulfcoast]

The way I look at it, some folks were the "guinea pigs" who were going to their service industry jobs when Covid was at the scariest. They did their part and are, for the most part, no worse for the wear. Now it's time for them to sit back (if that is what they prefer) and let others volunteer to be the "guinea pigs" for this vaccine. So far, most people are no worse for the wear from getting the vaccine.

[Boffin]

People who think the mRNA used in the COVID vaccine is capable of altering their DNA are candidates for that vaccine. (They need their DNA altered.)

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Boffin

People who think the mRNA used in the COVID vaccine is capable of altering their DNA are candidates for that vaccine. (They need their DNA altered.)

If only there were a vaccine for those who ignore science, facts and truth and are guided basically by - "I believe what I believe."

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Trusting Big Pharma is like trusting the government

Can’t believe either one of them

Big Pharma is not trustworthy because the US does NOT have Universal Health Care, which we would have if government was not controlled by Insurance Company lobbyists. The V.A. acts like a Universal Health Care system and they place some pressure on Big Pharma to NOT gouge the public. And they keep drug prices low for veterans. That IS a government system that works.