Recall 1935: Herman Goring

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Fear. Plain and simple. No one wants what you have.
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I can’t grasp your attempted analogy. The Nazi brown shirts were an arm of Hitler’s government. BLM is a social uprising. Tell me again how the two compare?
Both were/are SOCIALIST MOVEMENTS with other goals like domination. And before you start in on "the Germans were fascists", the English derivative of the party name was, "The National SOCIALIST Workers Party".
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You are, IMO, being much too subtle. I would reply to the statement that "Minister of the Interior, under Adolf Hitler, Goring ordered all guns confiscated, and all police disbanded" with evidence. As to those who insist that teachers don't know history, apparently some here don't either.

Did Hitler Defund and Eliminate Police Departments?

Pay attention to this interesting paragraph from the Holocaust Museum

"The Nazis came to power in Germany in January 1933 and established a dictatorship, ending the 12-year German experiment with democracy, the Weimar Republic. Yet the police, who had been charged with defending the Weimar Republic, were integrated relatively easily into the Nazi regime. There was neither a wholesale purge nor a wholesale resignation of policemen.

Most policemen in 1933 were not Nazis, though they were overwhelmingly conservative. They thought of themselves as neutral professionals and as impartial servants of the law. Their personal politics were supposed to be irrelevant to their duties. Yet members of the police proved willing to support a Nazi government that destroyed democracy in Germany. The police in particular and conservatives in general supported the Nazis in 1933. Conservatives came to view a Nazi dictatorship as a solution not just to the weaknesses of the Weimar Republic but to a whole series of professional difficulties peculiar to the police.
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Hitler did not defund the police



Other than dog whistle postings on Facebook and other social media I doubt the OP can find any evidence for his outrageous attempt to link efforts to improve policing in the US, and BLM, to Nazis.
Who/what is your source?? If indeed Hitler COOPTED the Police, he would indeed have increased their funding as an enforcement arm of his regime. Which of course he did.
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Read your history. The National Socialist Party was a far right political movement and as far away from Socialism as a political philosophy can get. Nazis and White Nationalism are right wing, Socialism is left wing. Some people shouldn't have cut High School. History. It doesn't matter what's in a name, it matters what that name stands for.
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Read your history. The National Socialist Party was a far right political movement and as far away from Socialism as a political philosophy can get. Nazis and White Nationalism are right wing, Socialism is left wing. Some people shouldn't have cut High School. History. It doesn't matter what's in a name, it matters what that name stands for.
I graduated with a degree in History. So, a couple teaching points: Where did the term "fascism" come from? Answer, from the "Fascist Party of Italy, ie; Mussolini's Party. What does it mean? Mussolini wanted to restore the glory that was once Rome. In ancient Rome, the symbol of power was a bundle of rods, the "fascie" with an ax head head embedded within. It symbolized the power of the Roman Republic. Since Mussolini's party was elected to power years before Hitler was appointed German Chancellor in 1932, the term "fascist" came to be an expression of a totalitarian government. Of course the adoring media of the time failed to see the same faults in Soviet Russia. So- called "right" or "left" wing movements are peas in a pod when it comes to suppression and desire for total control over others. Not sure what sources you are reading but I suggest a broader curricula.
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Misinformation. Hitler only confiscated guns from Jews and "socially unreliable" people (dissidents). Nazism wasn't a hostile takeover. Many people were quite willing to live under fascism, just like today.
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Who/what is your source?? If indeed Hitler COOPTED the Police, he would indeed have increased their funding as an enforcement arm of his regime. Which of course he did.
In a post if you see a word or phrase in an alternate color you can click on it to be taken to the source. Please go back to the post you believe did not have sources and click on the embedded links.
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As Minister of the Interior, under Adolf Hitler, Goring ordered all guns confiscated, and all police disbanded.
This allowed the Brown Shirts to rob, murder, and pillage, to intimidate the populace, just before the election. Does any of this sound familiar?
Folks if you do not see what the intent of BLM is,
then you better see an ophthalmologist.......
Few German citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the 1930s. The Weimar Republic had strict gun control laws. When the Third Reich gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened, such as allowing firearm ownership for Nazi party members and the military.The laws were tightened in other ways. Nazi laws systematically disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for so-called "ordinary" German citizens.
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Apparently so is grammar.
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