[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

I've never heard one person in a position of power speak of 'Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA' or that 'HRC wears masks make from children's faces'. In fact, I've never heard these claims period prior to you. Clue me in, where are you hearing that info? And which people in power have repeated it?

"Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory are “gentle people waving American flags”, Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed on Friday night – two months since many joined a mob that stormed the US Capitol seeking to overturn Donald Trump’s election defeat, a riot in which five people died."

QAnon’s ‘Domino Theory’ Explained: Here's The Bizarre Scenario That Has Trump Redeemed By The Arizona Audit—And Returning To The White House

Fox News host Tucker Carlson calls QAnon followers 'gentle' patriots | US news | The Guardian

"Carlson’s comments about QAnon believers echoed remarks by Trump, who last August told reporters: “I’ve heard these are people that love our country. So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Once again, history is trying to be warped and rewritten by a certain contingent. The first vaccine was developed by Pfizer, who did not take a penny from 'Operation Warp Speed.' That didn't stop certain people from trying to take credit for it though and the multitudes who were/are gullible enough to believe it.

No, but they got paid $1.95 BILLION to produce it...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

See 3rd P of your second article: "During the three-year ban on funding projects – known as “gain of function” research – the Department of Health and Human Services developed a framework on how such research may be conducted to protect the public. The research criteria were drafted during the Obama administration, but weren’t released until the end of 2017. 2017 is when Fauci quietly released the funds.

Where did I say otherwise?

Like I said, gain of function research was stopped under Obama (in 2014), and then re-started (by Fauci), in 2017...

When Trump found out about it, he stopped it...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Yep, government "greased" the skid and it took lots of time out of the equation, yet the same folks who rave about that warp speed seem to complain about the safety of the vaccine.

I happen to think that warp speed helped Moderna for sure and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson and Pfizer to get temporary approval.

But, if you think it moved to fast and is unsafe how can you brag about the speed.

Again, bull****...

I've raved about Warp speed and I've taken the vaccine... So have most of my like minded friends...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Just because fauci gave money to lab doesn't mean he was involved at all.....that's like saying any person that gave money to trumps campaign was involved in the incirection

He gave a speech, promoting "gain of function"... And yes, there is evidence he was "involved in it"...

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I expect Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA are not true.
I expect HRC wearing masks make from children's faces are not true.
I expect MOST of what QANON says is not true.

And when people in positions of power repeat these "theories", that removes any credibility they may have.

But, that is just me being closed-minded and not giving craziness the benefit of the doubt.

PS I don't bait. Ever. My responses are honest and sincere. I don't believe I've given you reason to think otherwise, yet you have.


Probably should have questioned what you were hearing, neither is true. But both are perfect examples of why we shouldn't believe everything we hear, even when it conforms to our ideology.

A story re: HRC & Masks made of the skin of dead children was reportedly on the dark web. Even Snopes didn't associate the garbage story w Qanon. And Snopes gave the story a big, red FALSE anyways. There was never any truth to any of it, there was never such a story but still the story of the story went viral.
Is a Hillary Clinton 'Snuff Film' Circulating on the Dark Web? | Snopes.com

And MTG was given credit for the Jewish lasers starting fire. What she said was taken totally out of context. When you read the actual statements, it makes perfect sense. And again, Snopes gave it a FALSE. Did Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Say 'Jewish Lasers' Caused California Wildfires?

OK enough fact-checking for today.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

AS far as C and D go........we are trying to do something. We are trying to bring lost manufacturing jobs (and unions for higher pay) back to US shores. That would help raise wages and stop the shortages we are seeing now - build, back, better!

No, that was the last guy... (Except for the unions part...)

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Finally a "truth-teller" about warp speed.

No, just someone who agrees with your twisted logic...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bucco

A sitting congresswoman not only said it but is deeply entrenched in all of this.


GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Jewish Space Laser

Oh, right... She's Soooo powerful...

Which committees is she on again? Oh, that's right, NONE!

Marjorie Taylor Greene Loses House Committee Assignments : NPR

Unlike AOC and the Anti-Semite, Omar, who is on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, one of the most powerful and prestigious committees...

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Bucco

"Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory are “gentle people waving American flags”, Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed on Friday night – two months since many joined a mob that stormed the US Capitol seeking to overturn Donald Trump’s election defeat, a riot in which five people died."

QAnon’s ‘Domino Theory’ Explained: Here's The Bizarre Scenario That Has Trump Redeemed By The Arizona Audit—And Returning To The White House

Fox News host Tucker Carlson calls QAnon followers 'gentle' patriots | US news | The Guardian

"Carlson’s comments about QAnon believers echoed remarks by Trump, who last August told reporters: “I’ve heard these are people that love our country. So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”

Are you capable of making a rational point without the use of strawmen?

Should I condemn everything you say because antifa protestors have tried to burn down a Portland Federal courthouse for the last 6 months? Or after George Floyd, they threw stones and bricks atpolice and caused billions in damages?

There always going to be whackos on both ends of the spectrums. It just so happens that the violent ones are almost exclusively on the left.

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Bucco

"Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory are “gentle people waving American flags”, Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed on Friday night – two months since many joined a mob that stormed the US Capitol seeking to overturn Donald Trump’s election defeat, a riot in which five people died."

QAnon’s ‘Domino Theory’ Explained: Here's The Bizarre Scenario That Has Trump Redeemed By The Arizona Audit—And Returning To The White House

Fox News host Tucker Carlson calls QAnon followers 'gentle' patriots | US news | The Guardian

"Carlson’s comments about QAnon believers echoed remarks by Trump, who last August told reporters: “I’ve heard these are people that love our country. So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”

While I do see Carlson as an influencer, I don't see him as a 'person in power'. He has no decision-making authority, incapable of changing any law, therefore no power.

As to the AZ audit, I'll await the findings before declaring any reported irregularities as bizarre. I want free AND fair elections and believe audits are reasonable if only to prove that's what it was.

Trump's comments were perceived as a disavowment by the Qanon community. And they were p!**ed!

[ithos]

One year ago we could not have this discussion because of the tyranny of Big Tech and Big Media. Any discussion would have been squashed like it was here on the TOTV. The virus started in a wet market and it was transmitted naturally from animal to humans. Disagree and your messages were deleted or you were kicked off the social platforms.

It was all a big fat lie.

When did COVID-19 first infect people?

When you black ball people who disagree with you then you are a tyrant. That term would describe Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Zucker, Pichai and just about every talking head on the news.

Hat tip to manaboutown

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

While I do see Carlson as an influencer, I don't see him as a 'person in power'. He has no decision-making authority, incapable of changing any law, therefore no power.

As to the AZ audit, I'll await the findings before declaring any reported irregularities as bizarre. I want free AND fair elections and believe audits are reasonable if only to prove that's what it was.

Trump's comments were perceived as a disavowment by the Qanon community. And they were p!**ed!

He was referring to Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has been stripped of all of her committee assignments, and is basically powerless...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Yep, government "greased" the skid and it took lots of time out of the equation, yet the same folks who rave about that warp speed seem to complain about the safety of the vaccine.

I happen to think that warp speed helped Moderna for sure and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson and Pfizer to get temporary approval.

But, if you think it moved to fast and is unsafe how can you brag about the speed.

There IS a simple answer to that question. Cult thinking can DEFY logic and engage in ANY Bizzaro idea or action. That's why the US is STILL resting on a knife's edge of social disruption and tyranny. Portland, Or. has had a 500% increase in MURDERS for thus far in 2021 vs 2020. And YES, each side will blame the other!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

AMEN! And I personally wish Trump would stop trying so hard to get the credit for this vaccine, he may well one day regret it.

Would a shark that bit you "REGRET" it?????????