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cagedbirdflies 06-19-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1961366)
Germ warfare? Guess that ain't new. Most folks with common sense already KNEW that this virus did not come from some meat market. Now, on to the motive. How many vote for: Chinese gov wishing to cripple world economy?

Been my theory from day 1. China has been out to take control of the world for years. What better way then to cripple nations all over the world?

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1961421)
Pointless conspiracy theory? So the President is guilty of this?

Direct quote: Nevertheless, shortly after I became President, in March, I had my National Security Advisor task the Intelligence Community to prepare a report on their most up-to-date analysis of the origins of COVID-19, including whether it emerged from human contact with an infected animal or from a laboratory accident. I received that report earlier this month, and asked for additional follow-up. As of today, the U.S. Intelligence Community has “coalesced around two likely scenarios” but has not reached a definitive conclusion on this question. Here is their current position: “while two elements in the IC leans toward the former scenario and one leans more toward the latter – each with low or moderate confidence – the majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other.”

There are 3 basic scenarios:

1: Virus evolved naturally, went from bats to intermediate animal to humans (zoonotic)

2. Virus was manipulated to infect humans in gain of function experiments at Wuhan lab, leaked or released by infected lab workers into general population of Wuhan

3. Virus was manipulated to infect humans and released on purpose as bioweapon

1. So far, after over a year of trapping 1000s of animals that could be intermediate hosts has come up with bubkis, not a single spec of scientific proof of zoonotic origin. Also, the bats that carry coronaviruses live about 800 miles from Wuhan, if zooonotic origin why were zero cases found in humans in that area before it hit Wuhan?

2. Occams razor, virus attack started in Wuhan, the exact same place where a Level 4 Lab was studying coronavirus found in bats. Lab had documented safety issues. 3 workers at the lab were hospitalized with mysterious lung infections in November 2019. Chinese Government has never allowed a single western scientist to inspect the Wuhan lab records, most likely they have been destroyed. Several Chinese Drs and scientists were silenced after speaking out early in the outbreak. Several prominent scientists have declared that the virus has characteristics of being engineered.

3. I don't believe this one, it would be crazy to do this, but you never know.

Various militaries are ALWAYS looking for a weapon to give themselves an edge. And there are MANY evil people in power. I believe that it IS possible that CV originated in a lab. But, it is ALL speculation - above MY pay grade.

GeriS 06-19-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1961447)
Human Events - Media Bias/Fact Check

I will wait until the Presidents report is made public to draw conclusions or waste my time "theorizing"

The president??? He barely knows his name. Haven't you seen his strings?

GeriS 06-19-2021 11:55 AM

Everyone will remember what they were doing the moment they realized the crazy people were right.

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1961425)
It just seems like sloppy maintenance to me that was then covered up. And this would be very hard for say the Chinese intelligence agency to keep a lid on especially after the Corona Virus got out of China. I do not think that if they had a weapon like this they ever would have deliberately let it out as they would not longer be able to use it against their enemies.

Or they DID use it? They set the Western countries back economically and caused MANY wedge issues and China's economy rebounded faster. They even made some $ selling THEIR vaccine. So, as a conspiracy case, you can say that they had a WIN!

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1961435)
Sometimes I need to check to be sure I didn’t accidentally log into a Qanon website.

Great humor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1961451)
Very possible that the Chinese were developing biological agents to attack other countries and the virus escaped.

Will see what develops

Yes possible. And I bet that around 10 countries in the world have similar capabilities and programs.

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961478)
I read the Qanon posts on various sites only to keep abreast, rarely do I buy in. I oftentimes laugh out loud at the theories. That said, that doesn't mean that that all differing opinions are wo merit. I try to keep an open mind and consider the possibilities. Sometimes my opinion is changed by the differing opinion. Imagine?

Curiosity in Qanon and other dark media could lead you down a rabbit hole of no return. BE careful.

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961531)
"Poll Suggests" says New York Times
Anything CNN

When I post a resource to prove a point, I tend to find a source agreeable to the audience I'm addressing. Trust me on this one, CNN nor the NYT serves that purpose in this case.Both lack all credibility with your audience. Js.

I like their credibility!!!!!!!!!

Two Bills 06-19-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961869)
Pfizer made a sickening amount of money off the c19 vaccine, their major motive was not to help mankind. Read: This is how much Pfizer has made from the coronavirus vaccine

They may not keep it all.
The German company BioNTech that ceated the Pfizer vaccine will get a good lump of profits.

ithos 06-19-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by paquino (Post 1961882)
WOW! What a thread. We really have made this country great again. Look at all the experts here!

This is a far better source than the Major news networks which are propaganda appendages of a political party.

You will see many posts full of misinformation but at least you will be exposed to opposing arguments. I do, however, wish people would provide references or coherent reasoning rather than spewing gratuitous insults about public figures and in doing so believe that they have made a compelling argument. Those are the faux "experts" who are knee jerk ideologues.

Becca9800 06-19-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1961941)
Curiosity in Qanon and other dark media could lead you down a rabbit hole of no return. BE careful.

I'm more careful to keep an open mind. The way things are going, one just never knows "where the truth lies".

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1961928)
The president??? He barely knows his name. Haven't you seen his strings?

Very funny, you have a great sense of humor.

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961958)
I'm more careful to keep an open mind. The way things are going, one just never knows "where the truth lies".

I expect Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA are not true.
I expect HRC wearing masks make from children's faces are not true.
I expect MOST of what QANON says is not true.

And when people in positions of power repeat these "theories", that removes any credibility they may have.

But, that is just me being closed-minded and not giving craziness the benefit of the doubt.

golfing eagles 06-19-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1961451)
Very possible that the Chinese were developing biological agents to attack other countries and the virus escaped.

Will see what develops

Maybe, but if so it is the most lame bioweapon ever developed. It primarily killed the very old and those with serious co-morbidities. You want a bioweapon to at least kill the young people who comprise the military


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