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jimjamuser 06-19-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1961588)
I believe that a) I don't care
B) if we can't punish Venezuela, n . Korea, . Iraq Iran .
C) what will we do to China?
D) nothing

AS far as C and D go........we are trying to do something. We are trying to bring lost manufacturing jobs (and unions for higher pay) back to US shores. That would help raise wages and stop the shortages we are seeing now - build, back, better!

manaboutown 06-19-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1961928)
The president??? He barely knows his name. Haven't you seen his strings?

He has to do as he is told or he will "get in trouble", his words, not mine.

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1961612)
You can go ahead and wait for the president's report. You're ignorant if you think you can trust it and you're ignorant if you think it's going to be accurate. One of the most controversial issues that we face and you think they're going to be open and honest to the public about results?

There was only one way for the Dems to win the last election; to take out our former president and wipe out the economy. Only with those two factors the Democrats even have a chance to win that election.

What do you think happened and why? Wake up!

Someone is in a strange, unrealistic dimension and it is NOT Grumpy!

Becca9800 06-19-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1961964)
I expect Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA are not true.
I expect HRC wearing masks make from children's faces are not true.
I expect MOST of what QANON says is not true.

And when people in positions of power repeat these "theories", that removes any credibility they may have.

But, that is just me being closed-minded and not giving craziness the benefit of the doubt.

I've never heard one person in a position of power speak of 'Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA' or that 'HRC wears masks make from children's faces'. In fact, I've never heard these claims period prior to you. Clue me in, where are you hearing that info? And which people in power have repeated it?

jimjamuser 06-19-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1961855)
Once again, history is trying to be warped and rewritten by a certain contingent. The first vaccine was developed by Pfizer, who did not take a penny from 'Operation Warp Speed.' That didn't stop certain people from trying to take credit for it though and the multitudes who were/are gullible enough to believe it.

Finally a "truth-teller" about warp speed.

Bucco 06-19-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961976)
I've never heard one person in a position of power speak of 'Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA' or that 'HRC wears masks make from children's faces'. In fact, I've never heard these claims period prior to you. Clue me in, where are you hearing that info? And which people in power have repeated it?

A sitting congresswoman not only said it but is deeply entrenched in all of this.


GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Jewish Space Laser

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1961979)
Finally a "truth-teller" about warp speed.

Almost true, the actual mRNA technology was developed by a German company with whom they partnered to manufacture it and deploy it.

JMintzer 06-19-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 1961693)

So you are getting your "information" from a Right Wing Conservative Blogger, really. Even if Covid 19 originated from the lab in Wuhan, China, we don't know if it was done on purpose or an accident. Either way, it doesn't excuse the pathetic response from the former US Fake/Grifter loser who was in charge of our government who failed to protect US citizens!

You seem like such a nice person...

JMintzer 06-19-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1961694)
Until I see proof, I see nothing that makes Dr. Fauci be part of something planned to harm us.

I am a fiscal conservative. I am a person who strongly believes that most of our scientists have ethical motives. I am a person who knows that the press is motivated and financially fueled by click bait and that most politicians are not statesmen or women.

Not all people, no matter HOW they vote can be trusted to use true critical thinking. Not me, not you, not anyone. We all have our own agenda. Smart is whether or not someone agrees with you. Fear engenders a lot of theories. Getting to the truth of anything is the biggest obstacle mankind has.

Many scientists are motivated to keep the grant money flowing...

JMintzer 06-19-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hrenner (Post 1961714)
If you check out the website, you see it is a far right wing site with every article bashing the left.
Fake news. Get info from a better source

You you don't offer a syllable of proof to your accusation...

JMintzer 06-19-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hrenner (Post 1961717)
Your facts are from a far right website. Funny you believe it

Funny you can't refute it...

Bucco 06-19-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961976)
I've never heard one person in a position of power speak of 'Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA' or that 'HRC wears masks make from children's faces'. In fact, I've never heard these claims period prior to you. Clue me in, where are you hearing that info? And which people in power have repeated it?

I am sure that you have heard the leader of the GOP talk about this......is not his invention but....

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Jewish Space Laser

"QAnon adherents—who mostly slipped underground following President Joe Biden’s inauguration and a social media crackdown on conspiracy theories—are now galvanized behind the idea that Arizona’s controversial election audit will prove there was fraud, handing the state to former President Donald Trump, and then launching audits in other states that will eventually lead to reversing the election results, and putting Trump back in power."

This is pervasive in the part and over1/3 of GOP actually believe this to be true.

"Almost one in three Republican voters said it's at least somewhat likely that former President Donald Trump will be "reinstated" in 2021, showed a new Morning Consult poll, though there's no feasible way for this to occur. This included 17% of GOP voters who said it's "very likely" Trump will be reinstated."


29% of Republicans Say It's Likely Trump Will Be 'Reinstated' in 2021: Poll

How does a country function with this kind of looney tune antics.

Hope you have been following the various court cases with th Jan 6 insurrection and hear what these people are saying about this as well.

JMintzer 06-19-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1961726)
And you will see no proof.

The party of hate and fear always attacks personally, tries to destroy, but very very seldom offers any valid arguments.

And as they add QAnon to the congress because the followers seem to love that ind of thing, it will get worse...

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene introduced two pieces of legislation called the ‘Fire Fauci Act’ and the ‘We Will Not Comply Act.’

Legislation Introduced To Fire Dr. Fauci And Ban Vaccine Passports | WTRF

You just described the two posts immediately preceding yours...

Irony is ironic...

GrumpyOldMan 06-19-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1961976)
I've never heard one person in a position of power speak of 'Jewish LASERS starting fires in CA' or that 'HRC wears masks make from children's faces'. In fact, I've never heard these claims period prior to you. Clue me in, where are you hearing that info? And which people in power have repeated it?

I expect that you are intentionally baiting since those and many statements of similar veracity have been (and are) widely available.

Yes, in the case of Jewish Space LASERS she carefully worded her conspiracy-laden post to lay the blame on "lots of people are saying" type of comments. Giving voice to crazy ideas is one way to promote crazy ideas while leaving an out to later say, "Well, I never said exactly that".

JMintzer 06-19-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1961842)
One of the continuing themes on this site is that the vaccines are not safe and people are not going to get vaccinated because they do not want to be a guinea pig.

Warp speed had very little to do with getting a vaccine, and a lot to do with reducing validation and testing requirements to make a vaccine safe.

Ba, Ba, Ba, Bull****...


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