HOV lanes are bs anyway, toll bypasses another way so suck money. Not like there getting enough on gallon of gas. Toll roads are welfare career jobs programs. There should be law after so many years they can’t collect fees.

Okay, so you are fine with no more coffee creamer? I mean it is not mentioned either.

Then you are okay with no AR15s?

Just saying…

Another productive day on TOTV. :1rotfl:

Interesting argument. If you murder a pregnant woman the murder of the unborn fetus/baby brings separate charges and penalties as if it is a separate human life so perhaps the stance is not as far out there as one might think. If death is pronounced at the stop of heart beat then why wouldn't life begin with a heart beat and if there are two hearts beating in a car...

I love that term.... educated beyond their intelligence

I like my coffee black and AR15s are covered under the 2nd Amendment.

Before the Constitution came into being, various abortion laws existed in the Colonies. Obviously, the Founders made the decision to let the laws stand. Or, do you think they simply forgot to address the issue in the Constitution?
The Supreme Court, in its recent decision, returned the authority to the States where it existed for about 200 years before Roe vs Wade.

Grasping at straws are we?

AR-15s are what are known as "arms" and are specifically mentioned...

As to your "coffee creamer" example... Really?

No, Ar-15s are not mentioned in the Constitution, which was my point, you can't have it both ways. We have a right to privacy - oh, wait, that is not mentioned either.

Abortion law at the time of the signing was that it was none of the governments business until after quickening - in general. However, slave owners were 100% opposed to any abortion laws relating to slaves, since breeding with slaves was a popular recreation that led to more stock.

REALLY!
Unlike abortion, the Constitution, in the 2nd Amendment, specifically protects the right to keep and bear ‘arms’. It’s not referring to body parts.

arms
/ärmz/
1. weapons and ammunition; armaments.

The AR15 is a weapon, more specifically a rifle.

Okay, then you can have 2 muzzle loaders, since that was the definition of ARMS when the Constitution was written. Or, if you prefer, we can go the other way, since Nukes are not mentioned and certainly fall under the category of "arms" we can all legally own Nukes and not pesky regulations can prevent that.

Or we can go the other way, constitution doesn't say anything about cancer surgery - that is removing a bunch of deformed human cells which if not removed can kill you, same can be said of some embryos.

IMO Been going to hell for long time. and guess what, it’s going to get worse IMO. But, lucky for me I won’t see the destruction.

Daughter is an attorney, SIL is an attorney - they will never want for work. Stupid people and lack of thinking with regard to long term ramifications of decisions will keep them busy until they retire. Keeps the hour meter rolling.

I am not trying to be argumentative, but I can't tell if you think the SCOTUS was wrong or the woman in the HOV Lane.

No Right" is absolute , maybe I am wrong but I don't think many people would think private ownership of nuclear weapons should be allowed, likewise should abortion be available right up to birth ??

This also means that the unborn fetus, as a legal "person" should be considered a dependent for tax purposes. And as a dependent, a woman on welfare should be getting extra child credits while she's still pregnant. And food stamps (since it's per dependent, and not per capacity of digestive system). Health care too - social programs should be extended to the unborn, if the unborn is required to be legally considered a "person."