Originally Posted by christine J Toft (Post 2028401)

Odd, I watched. Not one drop of water came from his eyes. He's not even a good actor. And I also found it disturbing that the judge would not allow the prosecution to refer to those shot as "victims" yet the defense can call them Thugs, Rioters etc.... This judge was obviously very biased.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2027984)

How to pis* off a judge and lose your case.

Quite entertaining yesterday.

I've got some popcorn and ready for today.

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2028008)

Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Defense plans to call several more witnesses after his crucial testimony - CNN

I saw some of it on CNN. It has been on there a great deal.

Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 2028410)

It is very easy to **** off a biased judge what has Lee Greenwood's "anthem" as his ring tone.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2028426)

Um, he wouldn't have had to defend himself if he didn't have a weapon. He didn't even have to be there. He chose to show up, across state lines, with an illegal weapon..... he and his mother should spend the rest of their lives in jail. Vermin like that have no place in society.

Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2028463)

The judge is a nut case. He is an elected official and playing to his "audience". Pathetic human being! The prosecution is inept. Rittenhouse should have stuck to video games. He will be a "marked" person if he gets off. By the way, so that's how you entertain yourself with popcorn?

Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2028100)

Unfortunately, the smarmy, white supremacist little thug (and his mother) are going to get away with it. He went there for ONE reason and one reason only. He wanted to be a hero and shoot someone. He got his wish and will get away with it, due a lot to an inept prosecution and a sympathetic judge. The fact that his mother (who I can't understand why she isn't being charged) willingly drove him to a location where trouble was likely, while illegally armed, says a lot about the entitlement environment he was raised in. What kind of parent even does that?

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2028110)

Your opinion, you might add. Was he a "white supremacist?" What group does he represent? Or, are you judging him? Did he not have a first aid kit with him? Was he intending to choke someone with an ace bandage?

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2028503)

At Pudgy’s Pub, Rittenhouse was seen wearing a T-shirt with the words, “Free as F***,” while flashing the "OK" sign — a gesture that has been co-opted by known white supremacist groups, the motion said. In his 90-minute visit to the bar, which was captured on security footage, the teen was seen consuming alcohol while being serenaded by a group of adult men who sang the Proud Boys’ anthem, according to the motion.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2028509)

And do you know that he is suffering from anything that you posted???? No...I didn't think so.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2028511)

Hopefully your 17yo son wouldn't illegally obtain an assault rifle then go to another state to parade around in an area where there is civil unrest with it strapped across his back looking for trouble....hopefully

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2028519)

Do you know his "lack of tears" proves anything? No...I didn't think so...

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2027984)

How to pis* off a judge and lose your case.

Quite entertaining yesterday.

I've got some popcorn and ready for today.

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2028530)

I was in law enforcement.....When someone who is not a trained like and actor fakes crying they cannot produce tears. Producing tears based on emotion is an involuntary response. Its one of the first thing we look for. Now you know...:welcome:

Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 2028534)

Yup after 12 surgeries with anesthesia my brain cells are rusting. I can’t see the the importance of all these posts when NO ONE IS AGHAST THAT AN 18 YEAR OLD GOES OUT FOR AN EVENING TOTING AN
AK47? Oh right, gun rights and all that crap.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2028426)

Um, he wouldn't have had to defend himself if he didn't have a weapon. He didn't even have to be there. He chose to show up, across state lines, with an illegal weapon..... he and his mother should spend the rest of their lives in jail. Vermin like that have no place in society.

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2028459)

He shouldn’t have been there and shouldn’t have been armed, but he must have been utterly terrified, and he makes an excellent case for it being self-defense. Seventeen year olds often make very poor decisions, especially if swayed by emotional and one-sided arguments.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2028503)

At Pudgy’s Pub, Rittenhouse was seen wearing a T-shirt with the words, “Free as F***,” while flashing the "OK" sign — a gesture that has been co-opted by known white supremacist groups, the motion said. In his 90-minute visit to the bar, which was captured on security footage, the teen was seen consuming alcohol while being serenaded by a group of adult men who sang the Proud Boys’ anthem, according to the motion.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2027984)

How to pis* off a judge and lose your case.

Quite entertaining yesterday.

I've got some popcorn and ready for today.

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 2028558)

You are forgetting those whose lives were lost. To you it is entertainment.....to the families and those that loved the people who died it is life altering. Have compassion.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2028530)

I was in law enforcement.....When someone who is not a trained like and actor fakes crying they cannot produce tears. Producing tears based on emotion is an involuntary response. Its one of the first thing we look for. Now you know...:welcome:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2028565)

I was in law enforcement and the lack of tears means absolutely NOTHING. I have never seen ANYONE convicted in court because they were unable to cry. Maybe in your vast experience, you have? If so, perhaps you can share the specifics? I have seen folks cry when they were in court and still found guilty. And then they really cried. So, the moral of the story is that crying won't get you anywhere....:a040:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2028267)

Yeah that judge is having trouble speaking coherently. The "news articles" that quote him aren't quoting him in full. They're heavily editing what he actually was saying, so that their readers can make sense of it.

He forbade anyone calling the victims of the shooting - victims. In medical terms, that's what they were. Victims. They didn't die of old age. They were victims of fatal wounds from gunshots. Just like someone who dies from cancer is a victim of cancer. And someone who falls off a ladder is a victim of a broken neck. Someone who is killed in a car crash is a victim of massive internal injuries.

Victim is a 100%valid word to use for someone who is dead as a result of a gunshot. But the judge wants to minimize the "victimhood" of the victims by forbidding the word.

It was okay to call the victims rioters or looters, if it could be proven that they were. He actually pro-actively stated as such. But he pre-emptively forbade the word "victim." Even if it could be proven they were victims, they aren't allowed to call them that and when one witnessed used the word in his testimony the judge went ballistic.

(I was watching this on Fox News, at the time, in case anyone REALLY and SINCERELY gives a crap)

He is gaslighting a trial he presides over.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2028511)

Hopefully your 17yo son wouldn't illegally obtain an assault rifle then go to another state to parade around in an area where there is civil unrest with it strapped across his back looking for trouble....hopefully

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2028567)

You mean it won't get me out of a ticket? Damn!

Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 2028558)

You are forgetting those whose lives were lost. To you it is entertainment.....to the families and those that loved the people who died it is life altering. Have compassion.

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2028552)

And that makes him a "white supremacist?" SO, shooting three white guys is proof that he is a racist? I know of several racists in The Villages, but that does not make me a racist. Some folks just jump to conclusions based on what someone tells them, and others reason things out and do not condemn based on gossip and rumor.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2028518)

The t-shirt proves nothing...

That "gesture" has also been used by countless others, as I showed earlier in this thread. It proves nothing...

Being given a drink by his parent proves nothing...

And what is this "Proud Boys Anthem" you speak of?

Originally Posted by George Page (Post 2028378)

Please provide a source for this claim

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2028581)

there are pictures of him making the white power ok sign....no one forced him to do that.

so you know several people that are racists...do you hang out with them in bars letting them serenade you with Proud Boys anthem????

idk, if I was awaiting trial for killing people at a Black Lives Matter protest, it's not something I would do. I would use my "reasoning" to think that's not a good look.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2028537)

Well, he didn't have an AK-47, so there's that...

Originally Posted by christine J Toft (Post 2028407)

Thank you for some clarity need by many!

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 2028585)

well....he was awaiting trial for killing people at a Black Lives Matter protest....he was there illegally carrying a weapon now he was again breaking the law by drinking in a bar (if his mother wants to give him a drink in the privacy of their home, that's different) to do so in public seems like a flaunting display of entitlement.

“Proud of Your Boy” a song written for the 1992 Disney film “Aladdin,” but not used until a 2011 stage adaptation, and is the source of the name of the far-right group self-described “western chauvinist” group the Proud Boys. Prosecutors said the song sung by members of the Proud Boys “as an anthem and for self-identification.”

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2028550)

"Poor decisions?" Hmmm, I wonder what some on here would do if confronted with the same situation. I probably would have approached the situation a bit more cautiously, but I would probably be on trial for THREE deaths instead of just two. I've had more experience over the years with firearms, I'm sure. I doubt I would have been able to attempt to outrun the crowd, so I would have had to make a fast decision as to what I would have to do to protect myself. "Poor decision?"

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2028596)

Well - you can ask MOST people in this country. Since every single person in this country had the same options:

a) Show up in a town you don't know anything about, in a state you don't even live in, at while you are still a minor who isn't even eligible to join the armed forces, armed with a semi-automatic weapon that had previously been classified as an actual assault weapon, to an event where you know you will be expecting violence, which is why you are bringing your firearm, to "protect" or "defend" people who never asked you to show up at all.

Or

b) Stay home, or go to work, or go to school if it was on a school day, or go outside and toss a football with your pals, or go shopping, or "anything OTHER than the above paragraph."

Most people chose option b.

In fact, even most people who chose to attend the event weren't armed at all, let alone with a semi-automatic weapon. MOST people chose not to be armed with a firearm at all.

MOST people were not shot at, and MOST people were not killed. And MOST people - including the people who WERE armed - chose not to shoot anyone.

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2028573)

My grandson has a mounted buck head that he shot when he was 11yo.

Not to seem biased, but it does seem that city folk have an innate fear of big bad guns. Wonder why the survivor of the shooting is not ostracized for pointing a pistol at the DEFENDANT, the way this young man is criminalized for defending himself.

Hey, maybe that guy would not have been shot if he had not been where he should not have been, and brandishing an illegally possessed pistol while chasing a person down the street. I am presupposing that he illegally possessed the pistol, based on the statement by him that his CCW permit was expired at the time of the shooting.

Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2028463)

The judge is a nut case. He is an elected official and playing to his "audience". Pathetic human being! The prosecution is inept. Rittenhouse should have stuck to video games. He will be a "marked" person if he gets off. By the way, so that's how you entertain yourself with popcorn?