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tvbound 09-19-2020 07:32 AM

"If the next Justice has the philosophy of "Original Intent"


That "original intent" of the constitution was to treat women and blacks as second-class citizens, who could not vote or had any power in society and could be discriminated against with impunity. It's been patently obvious in recent years, that a lot of white males wish that we could go back to that intent. The real irony, is the number of women who have benefited from RBG's life's work and yet are clueless, as to what she has done for them.

Singerlady 09-19-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1835095)
Wow. No warning.
May she rest in peace.
I'm not thinking we'll see a replacement before Jan. 20. 2021.

Plenty of warning, unfortunately. She ‘ beat’ cancer 3 times only to have it come back. RIP.

Bucco 09-19-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1835281)
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And if 'the shoe was on the other foot' do you really believe the Dems Would Not do exactly the same????
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Thus far the GOP is pitching a shutout based on actual reality

mtdjed 09-19-2020 07:41 AM

Be honest - The issue of moving on with the business of the country is not a question of respect.

It is political. As one President has said in the past, "Elections have consequences...".

Politicians in office have obligations and judgements to consider. Appointments to the Supreme Court are recommended by the ruling President and approved by the existing Senate. Either party would move forward with their selection if they had adequate votes to confirm.

But the "Elections have consequences.." comment works two ways. The existing politicians now must consider the "consequences" of their actions in the upcoming election.

I would not believe any politician of either party proclaiming that "waiting" is due to respect.

Bucco 09-19-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 1835295)
Be honest - The issue of moving on with the business of the country is not a question of respect.

It is political. As one President has said in the past, "Elections have consequences...".

Politicians in office have obligations and judgements to consider. Appointments to the Supreme Court are recommended by the ruling President and approved by the existing Senate. Either party would move forward with their selection if they had adequate votes to confirm.

But the "Elections have consequences.." comment works two ways. The existing politicians now must consider the "consequences" of their actions in the upcoming election.

I would not believe any politician of either party proclaiming that "waiting" is due to respect.

You got it.

Our constitution has been ravaged and precedents have been set. Of course some only think in the moment, not our future.

Lots of reference points have been established.

Never understood, in watching our government, the short sighted win now attitude. Not exactly pro country

meridian5850 09-19-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ruralgoddess (Post 1835187)
McConnell blocked Obama’s pick.... how about he abide by his stated reason for doing that now.

Obama was a lame duck president in the last year of his second term. The current president is not.

Here is McConnell's quote: "I can’t imagine that a Republican majority Congress in a lame duck session after the American people have spoken would want to confirm a nominee opposed by the NRA, the NFIB, and the New York Times says would move the court dramatically to the left. This nomination ought to be made by the next president."

Art cov 09-19-2020 08:02 AM

The justice must not have trusted Pres Obama to replace her or she would have retired so he could pick his choice. Something was weird there!

Jpressley 09-19-2020 08:04 AM

Misquoted the granddaughter

seoulbrooks 09-19-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1835141)
Isn't this the time to say RIP if you wish? Isn't it also the time to say NOTHING if you don't have something nice to say? The woman just died hours ago. Respect the timing a little. Nobody will ever know how I fell about her. I'm sorry she suffered and I'm sorry she passed. Some posts are just shameful. Pick 'Em!

Agree!

jbrown132 09-19-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1835287)
"If the next Justice has the philosophy of "Original Intent"


That "original intent" of the constitution was to treat women and blacks as second-class citizens, who could not vote or had any power in society and could be discriminated against with impunity. It's been patently obvious in recent years, that a lot of white males wish that we could go back to that intent. The real irony, is the number of women who have benefited from RBG's life's work and yet are clueless, as to what she has done for them.

That’s what amendment’s to the constitution are for. That’s why it is such an incredible document.

Rzepecki 09-19-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1835138)
I have no words right now. It just hurts.

Ditto

davem4616 09-19-2020 08:15 AM

Rip

ithos 09-19-2020 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1835255)
Explain please

Are you serious?


Protesters pound the doors of the Supreme Court following Kavanaugh confirmation

Hundreds arrested at anti-Kavanaugh protest: 'It's time for women to be heard' | US news | The Guardian

Protesters disrupt Kavanaugh confirmation vote - YouTube

biker1 09-19-2020 08:35 AM

The last time I checked, the appointment was for life. I really don't care what pundits think and I am pretty sure RBG didn't either. Any you shouldn't either.

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1835233)
There were many calls for her to resign by Democrats under the Obama administration.
Why Justices Ginsburg and Breyer should retire immediately. | The New Republic

Ruth Bader Ginsburg should do all liberals a favor and retire now | Michael Cohen | Opinion | The Guardian

U.S. Justice Ginsburg hits back at liberals who want her to retire | Reuters

And there are many more such articles.

Now, many conservatives are glad that she didn't. If the Supreme Court takes a right turn, then I am confident that this prediction will come to fruition.


OrangeBlossomBaby 09-19-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1835200)
Regardless of your political opinion she was an inspirational figure. RBG excelled at a time when being a woman and Jewish were significant barriers to success in the legal profession. Despite several personal tragedies and family demands, she eventually graduated first in her law class at Cornell University.

However, if a new conservative appointment to the Supreme Court is successful, her memory will be tarnished for many of her erstwhile admirers. She put her personal ambition ahead of the interest of the leftwing of the this country by not retiring under the President Obama's administration when her health was in serious decline.

If McConnell hadn't refused to consider Obama's choice for SCOTUS at the time (Merrick Garland), hadn't even allowed it to be considered by the Senate at all - then Garland would've taken that vacancy, and RBG would've been able to retire knowing that a moderate judge was put into the other position.

That was her, suffering through sickness, in order to preserve the Republic. There is no personal ambition when you're SCOTUS. When you become USSCOTUS - you have won. Game over.


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