[Madelaine Amee]

I have been waiting to see if anyone would start a conversation on the unmarked security force and the unmarked cars in Portland, OR. This is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

[Bay Kid]

Portland, Or is an embarrassment to our country.

[rde3036]

Unmarked police cars are common in every state in the union and have been for the last 70 years. It's damn hard to conduct a stakeout in standard state troopers car.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Portland, Or is an embarrassment to our country.

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

[billethkid]

No different than any other location where there are unmarked police/enforcement agencies.

Let them use what ever tools or not that allow them to catch the looters/rioters/thugs/killers!

No BS about rights violations needed.

Just get the bad folks!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

Sometimes it is warranted. It is no baby game out there. I guess some people missed live PD. A lot of violence of citizens who try to harm those who are attempting to arrest them. If you watch the LEO's (over half of the country's police officers wear cameras) you will also see polite and follow the rules behavior. They say this gentleman, this female instead of wild scoundrel like I would describe some folks calling police "pig, bitch, *******, faggot, etc.etc." and biting and spitting on them and not stopping ...oh no. Not stopping.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

The short answer....yes

Steve

[billethkid]

Sitting at the keyboard and intellectualizing the issue is easy....no investment in the reality!!!!

When they are breaking down your doors and windows one's perspective changes quickly.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

Are you implying that police in unmarked cars are simply stopping in the street and targeting random people with pepper spray, beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets?

If that's what you're saying it's wrong, but I would need to see a lot of evidence that that is happening.

[Mortal1]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

tearing down statues, throwing rocks and bottles filled with gas peaceful protesting???

The police are doing their jobs....

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

I have been waiting to see if anyone would start a conversation on the unmarked security force and the unmarked cars in Portland, OR. This is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

Thanks for thread.................good discussion.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

I have been waiting to see if anyone would start a conversation on the unmarked security force and the unmarked cars in Portland, OR. This is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

The police do that as part of their jobs. Have you noticed unmarked cars on the highways?

If people break the law and destroy and loot this is a great way to scoop them up and send them off to jail.

[valuemkt]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

When you are carrying out wanton destruction of property in a large group, that is a riot.. and not the good kind. Pepper spray and rubber bullets would only be the first wave.. The idiot mayors should declare curfews.. which of course they have not, and they would not be observed anyway .. Pepper spray and rubber bullets won;t work in a large crowd .. water cannons and tear gas will ..

And mass arrests WITHOUT bail for those destroying property and NOT demonstrating peacefully might start sending a message .. This shouldnt be confused with a police state, this should be a demonstration of law and order .. To protect public and private property from destruction and return law and order ..

Yes violence often begets violence to get things under control .. and its well overdue .

Violate laws and disrespect property and desecrate monuments .. you get what you came for .. and community service sentences (in addition to jail time) should include cleaning up and paying for the mess they created ..

The federal government, our tax dollars, should not pay for clean up caused by sissy mayors ..

[bilcon]

I guess the only way that Law enforcement can do their jobs without being attacked is undercover. If that's what it takes, go for it. Those opposed can put on a uniform and jump in the middle of the protesters. See how that works out for you.

[Luisa]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

From your reply, I can only presume that you are perfectly OK with unmarked security and unmarked cars using pepper spray and beating up people with night sticks and shooting them with rubber bullets. Is that bringing order to our streets?

The only person getting beat by a stick was a policeman that had blood running down numerous places on his face and head, by a member of a BLM mob. I pray the assailant is is grabbed in an unmarked vehicle ASAP. Would you rather they use real bullets? It is very smart to use unmarked vehicles so mobs don’t assault law enforcement and vandalize marked cars.