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ruralgoddess 09-23-2020 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 1836944)
Knocking on wood, but I do not know personally any one who has died from COVID or for that matter anyone who has even had Covid.

I do...but is it necessary for someone to know somebody personally to take this pandemic seriously? Surely not.

biker1 09-23-2020 06:06 AM

You are off by about a factor of 2. China is number 1 at 27% and the US is number 2 at 15%.

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Originally Posted by Cranford61 (Post 1836981)
We, the 5%ers, also create 27% of worlds greenhouses gasses. Not a good world citizen. Connection?


biker1 09-23-2020 06:12 AM

The pre-Covid death rate was pretty constant. If you really want to know how many people have died from COVID, either directly or indirectly, look at the difference in the number of deaths on a month-by-month basis between 2019 and 2020. You need to dig a little bit but the data is out there.

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Originally Posted by fastboat (Post 1837008)
True. They can die of terminal cancer that they've had for months or maybe years but if they catch this virus, bang, their death is blamed on Covid 19.


Raton270 09-23-2020 06:16 AM

Always follow the Money. 👍

SacDQ 09-23-2020 06:18 AM

There is no way that third world countries are accurately and honestly counting Covid 19 deaths. Then you have India and China with No value what so ever for the lower class in there populations, they don’t even treat them let alone count the dead from covin.

Dana1963 09-23-2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1836994)
Because anyone who has died in the last 6 months is being deemed COVID realted in order to inflate the numbers and scare the pants off of you, that's why. In New York City, 7,000 deaths in the month of February ( normal mortality ) were reclassified from "unknown" to COVID, so Cuomo could cry about poor NYC.... My neice and nephew went to a testing center in FL. They signed in but the wait was too long so they bailed out. A week later they got test results - POSITIVE for CV19. No amount of arguing could convince the lab otherwise. Multiply this by a couple thousand times and add the coefficient of government incompetence and thats how you get the numbers.

I’ve heard the same testing story from Ri, Mass and Michigan it’s BS to create distrust in the system.

Tennisnut 09-23-2020 06:22 AM

Another Thought
 
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1837015)
You are off by about a factor of 2. China is number 1 at 27% and the US is number 2 at 15%.

and China has 3 times the population and is a net manufacturing exporter. China is 2000 kg of oil eq vs 7000 kg of oil eq per capita.

ficoguy 09-23-2020 06:25 AM

Big pharma and biotech needed a boost....so many drugs for itching, scratching and cholesterol going off patent.....so, lets look at what companies are benefitting from the situation...I can see Merlin in Medieval England cooking up a cure for bubonic plague in his lab...."sire, ye shall have an elixer by Christmas"

Sunflower33 09-23-2020 06:26 AM

Beautifully said thank you

Tennisnut 09-23-2020 06:26 AM

Good Article
 
Well thought out article on Covid in today's paper that I hope some don't think it is fake news.

DavidStockhausen 09-23-2020 06:30 AM

Deaths are recorded “Covid Related” because hospitals are getting supplements for this. Last week 9 deaths reported in this area, 6 were over 80, 2 over 70, 1 in 50’s!

biker1 09-23-2020 06:34 AM

We are higher than China on a per capita basis because we are more industrialized. China is still a third world country. However, I was responding to the incorrect information in the post.

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Originally Posted by Tennisnut (Post 1837037)
and China has 3 times the population and is a net manufacturing exporter. China is 2000 kg of oil eq vs 7000 kg of oil eq per capita.


Mohawksin 09-23-2020 06:38 AM

Problems in reporting
 
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Originally Posted by T186021 (Post 1836917)
How can the US have 5% of the world population but 20% of the deaths related to Covid? We have failed to protect our population from the pandemic. How did our country become so anti-science during this world wide health crisis?

Why, because the US put a bounty on Covid deaths which inlates the "deaths related to Covid", and the rest of the world historically under reports actual data either because of policy or technology shortages.

davem4616 09-23-2020 06:46 AM

sounds like folks are gaming the system

and who can trust that all countries are counting the exact same way...and even counting accurately

only number that is important to me is my wife's and my own....and we're playing it safe

billethkid 09-23-2020 06:50 AM

Plus the lack of making certain precautions mandatory and not enforcing the recommendations.

Bounty for deaths plus lack of strict basic precautions.

USA covid-19 numbers demonstrate the "let's not upset anybody" mode of management does not work.

No mystery to end results.


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