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speedo8357 06-21-2020 02:57 PM

If Giuliani were major, this would not be happening. I’m a born and raised NYer and began my working career during the 70s. You couldn’t walk through the streets without climbing over homeless and being accosted by windshield washers intimidating you when you parked at a red light. A marked difference during Giuliani in the 90s. You actually were inclined to hang around the city to go to a show and have a bite to eat. Because he empowered the police and supported them.

fdpaq0580 06-21-2020 03:25 PM

Me too.
 
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Originally Posted by RAAndre (Post 1788759)
It is just so hard to believe how stupid these officials/politicians are. I can't believe what is happening in this country. What the hell is going on? Who the hell are these crazy people? I am saddened and fearful.

Like you, I too am saddened and fearful. People are crazy, but the leaders of the crazies are crazy like foxes. They know that the continued weakening of our responses to lawlessness and the pandering of political leaders to special interests due to threats of various kinds is working. I believe that the majority of decent, honest people truly support equality for all, but the crazy foxes have succeeded in getting us to focus on and squabble over details, individual events and past injustices, thus making it near impossible to agree on what really needs to be done to set a proper foundation for moving ahead.
The aim of the crazy foxes, is the destruction of our country. They don't want to rock the boat, they want to tip the boat over.
I want and welcome diversity in my country and my community. But, I also welcome law and order equally applied to all. As long as there are those who prey and abuse others the laws must be enforced, order maintained and correcting measures applied equally to all.
Please stay safe. Please stay healthy. Peace.

Stu from NYC 06-21-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1789109)
Like you, I too am saddened and fearful. People are crazy, but the leaders of the crazies are crazy like foxes. They know that the continued weakening of our responses to lawlessness and the pandering of political leaders to special interests due to threats of various kinds is working. I believe that the majority of decent, honest people truly support equality for all, but the crazy foxes have succeeded in getting us to focus on and squabble over details, individual events and past injustices, thus making it near impossible to agree on what really needs to be done to set a proper foundation for moving ahead.
The aim of the crazy foxes, is the destruction of our country. They don't want to rock the boat, they want to tip the boat over.
I want and welcome diversity in my country and my community. But, I also welcome law and order equally applied to all. As long as there are those who prey and abuse others the laws must be enforced, order maintained and correcting measures applied equally to all.
Please stay safe. Please stay healthy. Peace.

I am afraid you are right, they are trying to destroy our country and unfortunately we are playing into their hands,

JGVillages 06-21-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1789089)
Here's my reaction;....It appears governors have better common sense than mayors....

We have some mighty odd ducks for mayors around this country.

Mayors in charge of directing police action in a crisis? Police chiefs/commissioners are hired because of their extensive education and experience in law enforcement. My guess would be 95%+ of mayors in the USA have little if any law enforcement expertise, yet they decide the actions or inactions of their city’s police response in a crisis. Anyone care to explain why this system isn’t designed to fail?????

Stu from NYC 06-21-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1789154)
Mayors in charge of directing police action in a crisis? Police chiefs/commissioners are hired because of their extensive education and experience in law enforcement. My guess would be 95%+ of mayors in the USA have little if any law enforcement expertise, yet they decide the actions or inactions of their city’s police response in a crisis. Anyone care to explain why this system isn’t designed to fail?????

Politicians kind of think they know it all. Why do politicians direct our armed forces in times of war when they have no military background.

One of smartest things Abraham Lincoln did was appoint Grant as general in charge and let him do his job.

GoodLife 06-21-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1789164)
Politicians kind of think they know it all. Why do politicians direct our armed forces in times of war when they have no military background.

One of smartest things Abraham Lincoln did was appoint Grant as general in charge and let him do his job.

Apparently Grant did not do a good enough job defeating the confederacy because his statues are being defaced and toppled.

mamamia54 06-21-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by speedo8357 (Post 1789100)
If Giuliani were major, this would not be happening. I’m a born and raised NYer and began my working career during the 70s. You couldn’t walk through the streets without climbing over homeless and being accosted by windshield washers intimidating you when you parked at a red light. A marked difference during Giuliani in the 90s. You actually were inclined to hang around the city to go to a show and have a bite to eat. Because he empowered the police and supported them.

Absolutely correct! DeBlasio could care less about his police force and they know it.

Stu from NYC 06-21-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789167)
Apparently Grant did not do a good enough job defeating the confederacy because his statues are being defaced and toppled.

Still scratching my head about this one. He should be a hero to these people. Perhaps they have no idea who he is and what he did.

ColdNoMore 06-21-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1789164)
Politicians kind of think they know it all. Why do politicians direct our armed forces in times of war when they have no military background.

One of smartest things Abraham Lincoln did was appoint Grant as general in charge and let him do his job.

Maybe because it's in the COTUS and the Founding Father's didn't want a...


Military Dictatorship (click here)


...as our form of government? :oops:

In fact, the FF's weren't in favor of a standing army...in the first place.


GOLFER54 06-22-2020 04:46 AM

The criminals know that the police are scarce due to them leaving the force or retiring. These bad people are having a field day with little or no consequences.

Stu from NYC 06-22-2020 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 1789226)
The criminals know that the police are scarce due to them leaving the force or retiring. These bad people are having a field day with little or no consequences.

Very true hoping that the voters remember what the mayor and city council did to their city.

Paporter 06-22-2020 06:14 AM

Glad I live here and not there!
 
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1788699)
Shootings are surging this week in New York City, with 28 incidents and 38 victims reported since Monday — the day the NYPD disbanded its plainclothes anti-crime unit.

By comparison, the same week last year there were only 12 shootings for the entire week.

NYC shootings surge after NYPD's anti-crime unit disbanded

In one of the killings, a 35 year old man in Brooklyn was washing his car when an unknown assailant walked up behind and executed him.

NYC man shot dead while washing car as gun violence soars - New York Daily News

Why is this surprising?

Paporter 06-22-2020 06:16 AM

It’s because it’s being done by thugs, who don’t know the difference between Grant and Donald Duck.

Annie66 06-22-2020 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1788699)
Shootings are surging this week in New York City, with 28 incidents and 38 victims reported since Monday — the day the NYPD disbanded its plainclothes anti-crime unit.

By comparison, the same week last year there were only 12 shootings for the entire week.

NYC shootings surge after NYPD's anti-crime unit disbanded

In one of the killings, a 35 year old man in Brooklyn was washing his car when an unknown assailant walked up behind and executed him.

NYC man shot dead while washing car as gun violence soars - New York Daily News

Let's see what the data tells us in a month or two. This report to me is one data point, and you need multiple data points to determine a trend. Let the data do the talking.

paquino 06-22-2020 06:21 AM

“These crazy people “ are whom we elected!


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