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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1977702)

The sad part about all of this, is that IMHO most Americans have felt that the people we elect to govern us are smarter, wiser, more responsible, and have a genuine desire to serve "us". My mother used to tell me "too bad we can't vote for the best candidate, these days we have to vote for the least worst". Maybe in the past politicians were honorable people, but these days politicians are a bunch of self serving, money thieving, power hungry leeches regardless of party affiliation. They are all millionaires and live apart from us "peasants".

History as we were indoctrinated with was first of all boring and secondly totally false.
What we vote for is a public relations firm. You do not know the person we vote for at least most of us don't.

Today, our screaming about our past and our current president. Read about Abe Lincoln
thought, today, by most to be one of our greatest presidents. What we are fed in history class.
Truth is just as today our nation was clearly divided. My view, at the end of the Civil War,
Abe Lincoln made Thanksgiving a national holiday. For me a shockingly, simple, brilliant
political act. Had Booth, out of mindless hate, not killed Lincoln my opinion, though we cannot go down two different roads at the same time, things would have been far better for the south, for freed slaves and for OUR nation.

Do overs, were perhaps third grade. We all have no choice but to see where we are and decide or try to decide where we go from here

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1977702)

George Washington another made into a saint politician. His reality according to the book making of the president 1776. He married Martha Washington, I don't recall her maiden name not because she was attractive, she was rather plain but because she was a WEALTHY WIDOW. George Washington had sort of an accountant background.
While he did refuse to be paid to lead the troops he did freely use his expense account.
I his own records, it shows he sent wagons and horses home and billed his expense account. He also sent home barrels a Madara a sweet wine. Reminder they did not know about germs but they did know that you would get sick from drinking water but not from tea or alcoholic beverages. Our declaration of independence, our constitution, miracle that I think they are. The writers, the debaters, the signors likely had a buzz on when they did this.

People have never been perfect. Edited people are not real but we do vote for them.

SF situation is coming soon to every town in the USA. Please remember in Nov

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Originally Posted by ChiefDMM (Post 1977301)

I am one of the thousands of people escaping California and lived very close to SF. I can attest that SF is an absolute ****hole! The elected officials continue to enact their liberal policies which promote homelessness, drug use and criminal activity. Last time I visited SF I literally had to step around sleeping homeless people and dodge human feces on the sidewalks. I’m not insensitive to the homelessness crisis in California but I have watched the problem increase exponentially. Same applies to all west coast states. The reason? We pay them to come here and do not allow law enforcement to enforce the laws of the people. Perfect recipe for the continued degeneration of the quality of life in California. One of many reasons why I bolted.

Feel free to visit, but you definitely don’t want to live there. Spend your money there. The government will just turn around and use it to buy syringes for drug addicts to shoot up under their supervision. Think I’m kidding? Look it up. That really happens.

Ditto to everything you said. The beauty and weather can no longer neutralize the CA government and their crazy policies. We escaped in 2019 and never looked back. Full disclosure, due to business interests there we have to return for a few days every once and a while.

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1978058)

Martha Dandridge Custis Washington

Marriages in the 18th century were rarely about love, but most often about the relative assets of each party and/or social position. for the farmer/working classes, even moreso it was about basic economic survival. A patriarchal partnership.

For the upper classes- George Washington was hardly unique in this way. Marriage based primarily on attraction and love is a concept that really doesn't begin to appear in the US or Europe widely until the 19th century