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Gulfcoast 07-03-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1797181)
So being obscene is worse than possibly causing a person’s death? Sorry, I don’t get it.

If the mask you are wearing and the way you are wearing it basically provides little to no protection for yourself or to others, should you be held accountable for that?

Should stores be doing a mask check to insure that all masks meet stringent safety requirements?

Joelack99 07-03-2020 02:19 PM

Actually they are entitled to infect themselves but not free to infect anyone else. That’s why masks should be required everywhere. Stores absolutely have the right to require certain dress, including masks. Your freedom is to shop elsewhere if that offends you just as I absolutely will shop elsewhere if people are endangering my health. But why should it? This is not a political issue in any way.

billethkid 07-03-2020 02:20 PM

If the numbers in FL keep climbing Desantis will have to declare masks REQUIRED.....that will be when he thinks his political risk is to that point.
It is very unfortionate this whole issue has become politicized, hence avoiding doing what is right for the welfare of the residents of FL.

Velvet 07-03-2020 02:20 PM

Any face covering helps, other than a screen, to stop your droplets from others. I really think people just don’t like to smell their own bad breath, one could wear a face shield if they cannot wear a mask.

Gulfcoast 07-03-2020 02:23 PM

Common sense tells us that a person who is not infected with the Coronavirus can not spread the virus to anyone else.

A symptomatic infected person can spread the virus whether they are wearing a mask or not.

Gulfcoast 07-03-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1797196)
Any face covering helps, other than a screen, to stop your droplets from others. I really think people just don’t like to smell their own bad breath, one could wear a face shield if they cannot wear a mask.

No. I am not responsible for guarding your well being. That is your job. The construction and quality of these homemade masks and dust masks are a joke. Remember how Nancy Pelosi started off wearing those guazy fashion scarfs as her face covering.

How stupid do these politicians think that we are?

Gulfcoast 07-03-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1797195)
If the numbers in FL keep climbing Desantis will have to declare masks REQUIRED.....that will be when he thinks his political risk is to that point.
It is very unfortionate this whole issue has become politicized, hence avoiding doing what is right for the welfare of the residents of FL.

If the numbers in FL are increasing but the number of hospitalizations/deaths are not really all that alarming why would Desantis order us to wear masks?

The numbers are increasing not because people are dropping like flies, it's because testing has become more widely available and those that would not have met the requirements for testing (asymptomatic/very mild) are now being tested. As those numbers go up, the rate of death/hospitalization goes down.

The virus has been out there all along, we're just learning more about the rate of infection now.

Velvet 07-03-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1797202)
No. I am not responsible for guarding your well being. That is your job. The construction and quality of these homemade masks and dust masks are a joke. Remember how Nancy Pelosi started off wearing those guazy fashion scarfs as her face covering.

How stupid do these politicians think that we are?

You are right about it is my responsibility to protect myself. That is one reason why I have been asking for N95 masks for the vulnerable. I really don’t like to force everyone to do something as they do in socialist countries. I guess that is why here we try persuasion and hope that common human decency is enough. But where are those N95 masks?

donassaid 07-03-2020 02:51 PM

I choose not to wear a mask because it is useless against a virus. If you don't believe that, try sneezing thru one and see if your hand gets wet. If you are sick, don't go out. If not don't wear a mask. All you are doing is breathing in your own carbon dioxide and damaging your immune system which makes you even more susceptible to catching the virus. But people are sooo gullible so those of you who wear a mask, knock yourself out.

Gulfcoast 07-03-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1797207)
You are right about it is my responsibility to protect myself. That is one reason why I have been asking for N95 masks for the vulnerable. I really don’t like to force everyone to do something as they do in socialist countries. I guess that is why here we try persuasion and hope that common human decency is enough. But where are those N95 masks?

I would be fine with making quality masks available to the more vulnerable. I do not think that it is realistic to think that others can make being in crowded venues safe for them. Even if you gave everyone N95 masks, some would not wear them, some would improperly wear them, some would improperly care for them, some would wear damaged/torn masks....

Bottom line is, if you are highly susceptible to severe complications from respiratory viruses, you probably should be avoiding crowded venues, restaurants, gyms if the risks of becoming sick are not worth it to you. Some in the high risk category might make different decisions than you do and that is their choice to make.

Professor 07-03-2020 03:02 PM

Unfortunately many people don't care about anyone but themselves...just selfish in my opinion.

billethkid 07-03-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1797220)
Unfortunately many people don't care about anyone but themselves...just selfish in my opinion.

Political contrarianism.

Byte1 07-04-2020 08:58 AM

Talk about "selfish." The same ones on here that are telling everyone that they are selfish for not wearing a mask are the same ones that look the other way or even encourage bad behavior like protesting and rioting by the hundreds/thousands. Those folks do not NEED to be doing that during a pandemic, yet you all encourage them. You are more worried about yourself and how someone not wearing a mask into Fresh Market is going to infect YOU. I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that the large increase is due in part because of the mass groups of protesters in the streets, in EVERY state. Protesting for a scumbag criminal that died because of his own stupidity. Suicide by Cop.
So, don't come on here complaining about someone that has never been sick in their lives not wearing a piece of cloth over their face. Wear one if you wish, but you have no authority to demand that others conform to your standards so that you can feel safe. Sorry, but if you are out and about and get sick, that's all on you.

theruizs 07-04-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1797537)
Talk about "selfish." The same ones on here that are telling everyone that they are selfish for not wearing a mask are the same ones that look the other way or even encourage bad behavior like protesting and rioting by the hundreds/thousands. Those folks do not NEED to be doing that during a pandemic, yet you all encourage them. You are more worried about yourself and how someone not wearing a mask into Fresh Market is going to infect YOU. I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that the large increase is due in part because of the mass groups of protesters in the streets, in EVERY state. Protesting for a scumbag criminal that died because of his own stupidity. Suicide by Cop.
So, don't come on here complaining about someone that has never been sick in their lives not wearing a piece of cloth over their face. Wear one if you wish, but you have no authority to demand that others conform to your standards so that you can feel safe. Sorry, but if you are out and about and get sick, that's all on you.

The mask is not to protect you from getting sick, it is to protect others from you making them sick. You may not be sick yourself, but that doesn’t mean you are not carrying and spreading the virus. Anyone who wants to take the time to do the research can figure that out. If you cannot trouble yourself to wear the mask to protect others, then yes, it is a selfish me-first act. I am sure you will come up with all kinds of ways to justify your actions or non-actions, that’s fine. But it doesn’t change the truth. Expecting others to just stay home so you don’t have to wear a mask or feel guilty about it is just another me-first attitude.

Byte1 07-04-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1797220)
Unfortunately many people don't care about anyone but themselves...just selfish in my opinion.

Self-Preservation.
Socialists also feel that anyone that does not give their hard earned money to the lazy is selfish. Selfish to one may not be the same to others. I have found that many that accuse others of being selfish are stingy with charity and yet feel it is perfectly fine and warranted for the gov. to confiscate earnings to give to anyone that has less, regardless of work ethic.

Some of us feel it is selfish for others to dictate how we dispense our charity. If folks feel vulnerable when they are in public, it is not someone else's responsiblity to make them feel safe. Stay home if you do not like how others behave lawfully in public.


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