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Topspinmo 10-25-2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852359)
I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

What part of sweeping under the rug don’t understand? There no evidence other than video cause it was not investigated.

Scott O 10-26-2020 04:38 AM

We all know who you think your referring to, but the reality is there’s only one party that hasn’t accepted the last 4 years vote...get over it, and leave your political remarks to yourself..

camaguey48 10-26-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1852181)
Did I miss something when did the rioting start, and what cities are now burning?

They are smoldering in ruins. Yes, you did miss something.

Annie66 10-26-2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Going My Way (Post 1852189)
Sorry you were in a coma or watching the wrong News channel but yes our cities are burning...

And what is the date of your photo? This week? Last month? Two years ago?

camaguey48 10-26-2020 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 1852397)
I hate to say it, but after reading all of the replies from this one thread it would appear as if the Florida National Guard may have to be called to The Villages !!!! Are we going to go back to the "Friendliest Home Town" after this election or is our community going to be so divided we all won't even be able to go to the same Rec Center again? There is so much bitterness in these replies that it reminds me of my history classes when we learned about the events leading up to the Civil War where it was brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor. I can see it now, before you can enter a pool you will have to show your voter registration card indicating a D or an R instead of your Villager ID. For me, I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett for President !!!!! :icon_wink:

Wasted again in Margaritaville? I needed a good laugh this morning.

mrrmauu 10-26-2020 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1852029)
Gerrymandering, voter suppression and refusal to accept results are pretty much disqualifying as a bright shining example of democracy.

Voter suppression? LOL!!! Newsflash: it’s never been easier to vote in the history of all US elections. Time for an updated talking point.

mrrmauu 10-26-2020 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852288)
Want to bet if that candidate loses, there will be violence and in addition, want to guess who gets blamed.

Scary read about another of the ext reme and violent groups that are poised.

Right-Wing Militias Are Bracing for Civil War - The Atlantic

Or

Dangerous network of militia members led by Ammon Bundy has spread to 16 states, report says

Or

"Far-right groups are planning to patrol polling sites on Election Day, some of them armed, causing experts to worry about the possibility of violent clashes and voter intimidation."


Armed groups say they will show up at polling sites on Election Day - Business Insider

"FBI agents in the Dallas field office are warning of the likelihood that far-right extremists will use the presidential election as a “flashpoint” to further sow anti-government sentiment through rhetoric and potential violence."


Dallas FBI Warns Against Right-Wing Extremist Violence Ahead of Election - D Magazine

Lordy! Someone’s got a case of the vapors! LOL!

billyb1950 10-26-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852166)
You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS

This has been proven to have been a hack job from overseas by foreign interference. Headlines without factual follow-through don't convey reality, especially by NPR or other liberal sources. The old adage "If it bleeds, it leads" is applicable here. Truth be damned.

allsport 10-26-2020 06:29 AM

Lies, lies and more lies, there are no riots or cities burning at the moment.

Girlcopper 10-26-2020 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)
My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Of course its expected. Look at the riots and mass destruction when a cop shoots someone? Its just a reason to act like animals. Bottom line

MandoMan 10-26-2020 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)
My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

They are expecting a giant golf cart rally in The Villages, possibly with shouting of naughty words, but with no littering.

Clarinet 10-26-2020 06:51 AM

My son lives in Vermont
 
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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1852345)
The National Guard takes it's orders directly from the Governor of their State, not the Federal Government or any central authority....each state is going to mobilize differently, or not be asked to mobilize.

My son's unit not only has been notified to be on alert but has been recently issued combat style equipment and had some training in crowd control. The states do have initial control over their units and this unit will accompany the state police unless it is determined that the federal government will take control. If that is the case I expect we will see many states involved, if not all.

oldtimes 10-26-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1852451)
They are expecting a giant golf cart rally in The Villages, possibly with shouting of naughty words, but with no littering.

That’s funny

Jazzman 10-26-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852166)
You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."



Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS

How can you state only one side is making threats? Where do you get your news to stay on top of current events, the Onion, National Enquirer? These e mails were identified last week as having been originated by Iran and possibly Russia. These e mails were not generated by either “side” here in the US.

Taltarzac725 10-26-2020 07:48 AM

National Guard Readies for Election Help if Governors Call

I googled.

Bay Kid 10-26-2020 07:50 AM

Sooooo sad.

tomhinz 10-26-2020 07:56 AM

Come on, really?

SacDQ 10-26-2020 08:06 AM

We’re all old enough to remember the civil unrest of the “60’s”. Remember the song lyrics “Four dead in Ohio” . The anti war and racial equality riots in all the major across the country. We survived all that and our children will look back on these times as well.

HISTORY WILL ALWAYS REPEAT ITSELF.

BlackhawksFan 10-26-2020 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)
My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Unfortunately we have a President and they have a cult leader who continues to refuse to say he will leave peacefully and honorably.

I hope your son doesn't get deployed and if he does may he stay safe.

Jerry Leinsing 10-26-2020 08:33 AM

During Vietnam conflict NHANG wound practice on weekends with rifles, helmets, and bayonets on the tarmac to quell protesters at Hampton Beach. Gov just following White House orders.

sooziesoul 10-26-2020 08:51 AM

I know of people in New Hampshire who have received letters saying if Trump wins, their homes will be burn down ! And that they should make sure that their homeowners insurance is paid !

EviesGP 10-26-2020 08:53 AM

It's all just sad!!! Both sides stoke division and then hatred amongst ourselves. The previous Prez did some stoking, the current Prez has had to defend his election from the start. HRC even said that Biden should not concede the results, and now they're pinning that same remark on current Prez. I rue the day when we had Reagan and Tip O'Neill working together, from different sides. 2021 couldn't come fast enough?! God Bless us all!

Taltarzac725 10-26-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sooziesoul (Post 1852530)
I know of people in New Hampshire who have received letters saying if Trump wins, their homes will be burn down ! And that they should make sure that their homeowners insurance is paid !

These are probably from some far right or far left agitators. Could be either one.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-26-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SacDQ (Post 1852508)
We’re all old enough to remember the civil unrest of the “60’s”. Remember the song lyrics “Four dead in Ohio” . The anti war and racial equality riots in all the major across the country. We survived all that and our children will look back on these times as well.

HISTORY WILL ALWAYS REPEAT ITSELF.

The Kent State shootings are exactly what comes to mind when I hear about the National Guard being called in to defend the government from its citizens (which is what they're proposing now).

The National Guard should always be ready to defend their citizens against rioting or other aggressive forms of civil unrest. Announcing the future deployment in advance is a threat, it's not a simple announcement of fact. It is a threat made by the government, against its citizenry.

sloanst 10-26-2020 09:14 AM

The left has a plan.
 
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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)
My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

I watched Lara Logan last night. Her presentation "The Socialist Invasion" was informative. I suggest everyone watch it if they can.

Going My Way 10-26-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1852422)
And what is the date of your photo? This week? Last month? Two years ago?

Look at it this way, did the burning in cities happen recently by radicals, Yes or No?

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-26-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Going My Way (Post 1852547)
Look at it this way, did the burning in cities happen recently by radicals, Yes or No?

It depends on what you consider to be radicals I suppose. It's said in some "news" sources that they were started by alt-right actors who were brought in from outside specifically to create riots, so that the cities would blame the residents of starting the fires. It's also said that it was Antifa. It's also said it was the organization called BLM (as opposed to the movement, which is not an organization). It's also said it was started by residents who snapped after years of constant holding in the tension as a result of racial discrimination in every facet of their lives.

So - was it radicals? Might have been. But WHICH radicals? Radicals serving which side? The alt-right, or leftists? Or something even uglier? Or maybe it was just a couple of locals who had enough, went nuts, and the rest of the collective neighborhood picked up on the momentum and joined in.

What's more important than "who started the fight" is "why there was a fight at all."

Going My Way 10-26-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1852555)
What's more important than "who started the fight" is "why there was a fight at all."

This person wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground.
You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”

A WHITE Man by the name of Tony Timpa, who was probably buried in Potter's field burial grounds ....
Were their any destruction or burning by animals or even paid radicals after that, No!

PugMom 10-26-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1852183)
:agree: You can almost feel the hatred when they talk or TYPE.....:ho:

YOU, are my hero. thanks for speaking truth...:a040:

PugMom 10-26-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852296)
You are generally correct in your comments.

The extreme right wing groups are newer, and are getting attention from our highest leaders.

I suggest all read about these groups. They have been traveling all over our country, doing what they do. They are not only well armed, but trained in what they want to accomplish. This is not about a small group...these are people "looking for trouble" and until someone speaks out and condemns, they will become more emboldened and dangerous.

You recal, the outrage in Philadelphia a few years ago. I believe there were 3 men armed and alone at one polling place. Not an armed and trained militia.

The left wing groups have been around, not nearly as well armed or trained but certainly dangerous, but we only condemn them

Someone is going to get hurt.

We have become Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans, instead of being Americans either Republican or Democrat.

i would like to add just ONE comment to your perceptive post: look up a picture of the founder of Proud Boys. he is a brother of color. :super:

LynnWM158 10-26-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852166)
You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS

This was proven to be a message from a foreign entity and not from any American Political party

jimjamuser 10-26-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1852087)
Ask Maxine

I assume you mean Maxine Waters? Are you going to blame her for threatening to NOT accept a peaceful transfer of power? She is not even significant enough to do that. And she has nothing to do with it anyway. She is NOT a problem. Not even a possible problem. So you want the National Guard to arrest her? I hope they can HANDLE her. She is pretty tough.

meme5x 10-26-2020 10:50 AM

I, unfortunately think your son is right..it’s so sad .. never thought the US would be like this 😢

Bucco 10-26-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1852593)
i would like to add just ONE comment to your perceptive post: look up a picture of the founder of Proud Boys. he is a brother of color. :super:

I could care less about the color of his skin, or anyone's for that matter.

The fact that is important to you is telling.

Bucco 10-26-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by meme5x (Post 1852610)
I, unfortunately think your son is right..it’s so sad .. never thought the US would be like this

In my wildest dreams did I ever think, or could believe that my country would become so "third world", and while we always have had enemies, I never thought my country would be looked down on by the rest of the world, and frankly in every area you can name.

Nobody in the world believes us anymore, nor trusts us, nor even respects us.

But we are "macho" putting people in their place

Bucco 10-26-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LynnWM158 (Post 1852594)
This was proven to be a message from a foreign entity and not from any American Political party

Much of the disruption has its seed in foreign land, as it did in 2016.

However, our government does not condemn as it happens and happily passes on the messages.

The source is bad and worth discussion, but why you avoid these things as if they were not happening, or pretending it is only “one side”, is alarming.

I want the country to win, not a singular party or candidate.

Marine1974 10-26-2020 12:28 PM

We already are experiencing rioting , looting and
violence toward our police departments. Now we see violence toward citizens at political events . I’m sure it will even get worse with one of the possible outcomes of the Presidential election. 4 hours notice is extreme , I hope the national Guard get some kind of compensation for their time .

Aloha1 10-26-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852166)
You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS

Try to keep up. That is disinformation from Iran and Russia. Did you miss the FBI Alert on Television the other day?

kenoc7 10-26-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)
My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

I can assuire you the world doesn't look at the USA as a shining example of democracy. In fact, over the last four years it has become a laughing stock around the world

Bucco 10-26-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1852644)
Try to keep up. That is disinformation from Iran and Russia. Did you miss the FBI Alert on Television the other day?

Thanks for your concern. Believe me, I am trying to "keep up".

The quote is from a local North Carolina newspaper about the election cycle in North Carolina and the "stars" of it are local affiliations with USA politician.


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