Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852305)

Strange, you do not mention the extreme right wing groups who agitate and in many cases are the only violence at these demonstrations, but the answer is the same for all who participate.

As to Nadler...he never said they did not exist...he said they were not in Portland. If you have evidence of him saying different let me know.

I do not condone any violence, but as we all know, some groups are accused on a very high national basis, BUT if you search out the truth, you find about the Proud Boys, the Boogallo' etc.

BOTH ARE BAD NEWS, but those right wing groups never get criticized nationally (certainly never on this forum).

We just continue to label everyone, and mimic what we are told to say.

Of corse ANTIFA has been responsible for some bad actions, but it seems that they stand alone in so many minds. and my opinion is, all this street crap continues until you (generic you) accept that fact. Recently, these extremely violent militia groups have been empowered and fear no criticism from any quarter

U.S. prosecutors do not charge Portland protesters with antifa ties | Reuters

And by the way, I am not even close to defending Jerry Nadler. Not a fan, just tired of extremists (of any ilk or side) using our streets as a playground. They (all of them equally) need to be called out for their actions.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852296)

You are generally correct in your comments.

The extreme right wing groups are newer, and are getting attention from our highest leaders.

I suggest all read about these groups. They have been traveling all over our country, doing what they do. They are not only well armed, but trained in what they want to accomplish. This is not about a small group...these are people "looking for trouble" and until someone speaks out and condemns, they will become more emboldened and dangerous.

You recal, the outrage in Philadelphia a few years ago. I believe there were 3 men armed and alone at one polling place. Not an armed and trained militia.

The left wing groups have been around, not nearly as well armed or trained but certainly dangerous, but we only condemn them

Someone is going to get hurt.

We have become Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans, instead of being Americans either Republican or Democrat.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1852206)

False. The riots in Minneapolis were by people with very little burning down the businesses that served them. Stupid. And you will find other such stupid actions done by people with other interests.

Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1851935)

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1852066)

Durning an major event, one can be given a 4 hour notice. Years back it was for the thanksgiving parade. Then for the Stanley Cup parade. Guess government was worried about an uprising then too.

Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1852177)

Only one side is rioting and burning our cities to the ground.

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 1852147)

Just out of curiosity, what state is your son in? I wonder if this advisory was sent to the National Guard in all states or just to a few select states where possible trouble was anticipated. Regardless, I sure hope it is not needed. Could 2020 get even worse?????

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1852337)

So what was black panthers doing during Obama’s re-election. Funny how don’t bring up that? O wait it was sweep under the rug cause the political appointees in DOJ, FBI, and CIA.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852359)

I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1852359)

I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1852181)

Did I miss something when did the rioting start, and what cities are now burning?

Originally Posted by Going My Way (Post 1852189)

Sorry you were in a coma or watching the wrong News channel but yes our cities are burning...

Originally Posted by SIRE1 (Post 1852397)

I hate to say it, but after reading all of the replies from this one thread it would appear as if the Florida National Guard may have to be called to The Villages !!!! Are we going to go back to the "Friendliest Home Town" after this election or is our community going to be so divided we all won't even be able to go to the same Rec Center again? There is so much bitterness in these replies that it reminds me of my history classes when we learned about the events leading up to the Civil War where it was brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor. I can see it now, before you can enter a pool you will have to show your voter registration card indicating a D or an R instead of your Villager ID. For me, I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett for President !!!!! :icon_wink: