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terenceanne 06-17-2020 12:39 PM

Call 911 I have an armed burglar in the house. Please send a recent grad social worker ASAP.
No worries.

jimjamuser 06-17-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1785477)
Violent Crime and Social Worker Safety

20. Social workers - The 20 deadliest jobs in America, ranked - Pictures - CBS News

Violence and death threats against social workers just "part of the job" as 70% of incidences go uninvestigated

"Social work is one of riskiest, low paying job that gets little to no recognition. Often times alone, Social workers go into the homes of people who may be psychiatrically unstable, members of gangs, sex offenders, or even people who have previously been convicted of murder. Most social workers believe (rightfully so) that most of their clients are inherently good and have made or are trying to make positive changes in their lives. However, there is still risk to visiting these homes, as well as meeting in small, private offices alone with them."
SWHELPER - Social Welfare, Social Justice, and Social Good |

Steve

I am sure that IS true. In a few years, technology will have an answer. There will be robotic police/social workers/1st responders-controlled by a stable, highly paid social and response person. This will be sooner than most people imagine. Will save lots of money from patrol cars idling and causing CO2 emission. Will be safer and fewer wrongful death lawsuits. Many other advantages A "just-in-case " swat squad may be required if the machine gets hacked or put out of commission. The disadvantage will be that the laid-off Police numbers will add to the unemployment (30-40%) resulting from ALL AI and Robotic replacement. That much unemployment will have other social problems like psychological and adaptive stress. Hopefully, that will smooth out. Few TV'ers will want to read this next stmt. But, Andrew Yang, a Presidential candidate that was ignored, predicted the large unemployment-not myself! Enjoy knocking THAT post.

jimjamuser 06-17-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sipops (Post 1786028)
A Police Officer, Chaplain and social worker respond to a call. All of a sudden things start going wrong, now the P.O. has to worry about two more people getting hurt or injured. Please stop the nonsense. Better yet defund or do away with the Police for a couple of months and tell me how that goes. Remember we already lost a piece of Seattle and the mayor ang governor think it is just a love fest.

I am not buying that one. Has that combo been tried and what are the stats.

jimjamuser 06-17-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1786031)
Well if some one is breaking into your home and the homeowner calls 911, the social worker can ask for the crook to get on the phone and they can discuss their feelings.

That has been proven to work about 0.0001 % of the time.

Perhaps while they are having this discussion the cops could arrive and arrest the felon.

I got a good laugh about that one!

Stu from NYC 06-17-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by terenceanne (Post 1786178)
Call 911 I have an armed burglar in the house. Please send a recent grad social worker ASAP.
No worries.

What could possibly go wrong?

jimlambert 06-17-2020 01:57 PM

Criminals
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1785372)
Mayor Tim Keller announced on Monday that Albuquerque is creating a "first-of-its-kind" civilian public safety department that would use unarmed social workers, housing and homelessness specialists, and violence prevention coordinators to respond to certain 911 calls instead of police.

I think that some social workers will refuse to go into certain neighborhoods even if they were armed. And, how many female social workers are going to respond to a 911 call at night in a strange neighborhood. Who thinks this is a good idea?

. Criminals will love this idea!

Steve9930 06-17-2020 02:07 PM

This is one of the most ludicrous ideas I've ever heard of in my lifetime. There will be Social Workers who will be assaulted, raped, and killed. The only way to do this is to send them with a Police escort. You are going to have a bunch of people quit if you force them into this situation.

rlcooper70 06-17-2020 02:32 PM

My sense is that this mayor is trying to do something significant ... and if "some" calls can be handled better by trained therapists than policemen ... why would you object?

nututv 06-17-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rlcooper70 (Post 1786242)
My sense is that this mayor is trying to do something significant ... and if "some" calls can be handled better by trained therapists than policemen ... why would you object?

Yeah, I guess the loss of 'some' therapists in this social experiment wouldn't be the end of the world.
Why not send therapists by the hundreds into the next looting scene. (put up the gun free zone signs first though just to ensure everyone's safety.) Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. lol

bpascani 06-17-2020 03:10 PM

I can see a social worker type person (in one or more of those fields) accompanying 2 police officers, but certainly not going alone, AND, only after a WHOLE LOT of extra training for them, and the police officers

Stu from NYC 06-17-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rlcooper70 (Post 1786242)
My sense is that this mayor is trying to do something significant ... and if "some" calls can be handled better by trained therapists than policemen ... why would you object?

Some of the most dangerous calls for police officers are domestic disturbances. Do not think social workers will survive some of those calls.

nevjudbaker 06-17-2020 03:35 PM

That just shows you just how ignorant these people are in these government positions. Talk to any police officer & they will tell you the most dangerous part of the job is a 911 call for domestic abuse. Yet they are going to send an unarmed social worker to talk to them.

In Florida we have had so many young children over looked that needed help in abusive homes. Social workers say they are so over worked that things get missed. Yet we are going to add work the police do to their work.

Now training young police officers to be trained in social work as well to go to those calls but they definitely need a stun gun & gun.
Start a new division in the police force staffed police social workers. They of course would need higher salaries.
Put a facility in neighborhoods that houses police, police social workers & fire station. More in areas that are higher in crime. Everyone will get to know each other. Social workers could plan programs for the kids. The kids would grow to trust them. They would feel safe going there if they needed help.

skyking 06-17-2020 03:48 PM

Would anyone with a child trained as a social worker (MSW) advise them to apply for such a position?

kenoc7 06-17-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1785439)
You mean the pen isn't mightier than the sword. jk

The misunderstandings and implicit white privilege in most posts in this thread is epic - and sad. Wake up people - it is 2020, not 1820.

Velvet 06-17-2020 05:22 PM

Can someone give a scenario (911 call) where it would be appropriate and safe for an unarmed social worker to go to alone? I am having a hard time thinking of one.


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