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Old 07-26-2020, 08:43 AM
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WE have 70-80 year old men zipping around TV in 755Hp Corvettes that will do 200 MPH that have zero race car training or better yet 16 year old boys driving super bikes that will travel 210 MPH that have zero super bike training.. Why? Where can we drive that fast in public? Between the rifle and the vehicles guess which kills 100 times more innocents per year? Just because you put racing stripes on a Prius doesn't make it any faster or more dangerous and the same goes for an AR or AK.. Yep no REASON to own an AR15 but in America just like the Vette and the Honda the law says you can and being responsible with any of the 3 are on the owner and not society..
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Old 07-26-2020, 09:38 AM
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WE have 70-80 year old men zipping around TV in 755Hp Corvettes that will do 200 MPH that have zero race car training or better yet 16 year old boys driving super bikes that will travel 210 MPH that have zero super bike training.. Why? Where can we drive that fast in public? Between the rifle and the vehicles guess which kills 100 times more innocents per year? Just because you put racing stripes on a Prius doesn't make it any faster or more dangerous and the same goes for an AR or AK.. Yep no REASON to own an AR15 but in America just like the Vette and the Honda the law says you can and being responsible with any of the 3 are on the owner and not society..
Excellent response. There is a difference between need and want. How many US citizens Need to use tobacco or drink alcohol? But they do because it’s legal and they want to. Yet how many hundreds of thousands die each year from satisfying their wants? Let’s look at auto accidents - Approximately 50,000 people die each year. Of those approximately 10,000 are related to alcohol. Probably the majority of the other 40,000 were speeding related. The sad thing is many of those that died were neither the speeding nor the impaired driver. They were bystanders. So let’s only make 2 cylinder 50 hp cars that cannot exceed 60 mph. Probably those who oppose guns would oppose this requirement which would save thousands of lives. As for real men. Real men wrote the 2nd Amendment for a real reason. Many people do not understand the underlying reason for its existence and some that do do not believe anything like that could happen here. Look around you and think again. People don’t need to shoot an AR at a shooting range. They’re right. Also people don’t need to jump out of perfectly good airplanes, dive 300 feet below the surface into dark caves, die climbing Mt Everest, race cars and motorcycles at 200+ mph but they want to and enjoy it. In response to the statement that real men don’t need guns some might say a man is not a real man if he doesn’t have a weapon to protect his family.
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Amen, i 100% agrer with you. I am retired military and am quite familiar with firearms. I see people buyinf guns and iy scares the hell out of my.
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Old 07-26-2020, 09:57 AM
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Excellent response. There is a difference between need and want. How many US citizens Need to use tobacco or drink alcohol? But they do because it’s legal and they want to. Yet how many hundreds of thousands die each year from satisfying their wants? Let’s look at auto accidents - Approximately 50,000 people die each year. Of those approximately 10,000 are related to alcohol. Probably the majority of the other 40,000 were speeding related. The sad thing is many of those that died were neither the speeding nor the impaired driver. They were bystanders. So let’s only make 2 cylinder 50 hp cars that cannot exceed 60 mph. Probably those who oppose guns would oppose this requirement which would save thousands of lives. As for real men. Real men wrote the 2nd Amendment for a real reason. Many people do not understand the underlying reason for its existence and some that do do not believe anything like that could happen here. Look around you and think again. People don’t need to shoot an AR at a shooting range. They’re right. Also people don’t need to jump out of perfectly good airplanes, dive 300 feet below the surface into dark caves, die climbing Mt Everest, race cars and motorcycles at 200+ mph but they want to and enjoy it. In response to the statement that real men don’t need guns some might say a man is not a real man if he doesn’t have a weapon to protect his family.
Well said but there are some, maybe many, on this board that literally have no idea what you're saying. Using their logic, however, we would ban automobiles along with guns, parachutes and other things that could hurt you. Maybe like fire or matches too?


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???? whose fault was it that they shot themselves?
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And it's always Nazi Germany, never the communist party and communist Russia or China. Communist governments have enslaved and exterminated millions more people than Nazi Germany. Not trying to minimize the evil of Nazism but Communism makes the Nazis look like amateurs.
In the pantheon of 20th century mass murderers, Mao comes in first having killed about 60-70M people while trying to build his "socialist" (ie communist )utopia on earth. Stalin and Hitler were 2nd and 3rd. I think Stalin was about 20M ... Hitler also in the many millions

People forget, by the way, that the "Nazis" were also a socialist totalitarian party.

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Nobody needs This type of weapon for any reason unless they are the military
I never saw even one AR-15 issued to any of my troopers when I served in the Army.
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And it's always Nazi Germany, never the communist party and communist Russia or China. Communist governments have enslaved and exterminated millions more people than Nazi Germany. Not trying to minimize the evil of Nazism but Communism makes the Nazis look like amateurs.
Exactly, the number always show that the Marxists are far more dangerous. Not that that makes Nazis ok both groups are very evil but the greater evil is not referenced for some reason.

Personally, I take comfort that so many in TV have guns. They have lived to retire, not like the city gangs who never get out of their teens. Military style weapons should not be needed though with an adequate and trusted police force.
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I never saw even one AR-15 issued to any of my troopers when I served in the Army.
Typically, people serving in the rear echelon were not heavily armed.

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Real men don't need guns.
Having a 2nd degree Black Belt in Taekwando, I can Pretty much take care of anything; however, my weapon sure makes the playing field level.
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