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JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:50 PM

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JMintzer 03-15-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2072781)
Since I don’t PM, per your inquiry… starts with a b, ends with an o and has spent a lot of time on the bench. Got it?

Nope... But of course you could tell me where I'm wrong... Just like I did to you... Rather than post some cryptic insult...


P.S. It would also help if you learned to use the "Quote" function...

Aces4 03-15-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072816)
Nope... But of course you could tell me where I'm wrong... Just like I did to you... Rather than post some cryptic insult...


P.S. It would also help if you learned to use the "Quote" function...

Quote function was used and what was a cryptic insult? I was trying to subtly, publicly tell you the answer since I don’t PM. Wow, nice response.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2072820)
Quote function was used and what was a cryptic insult? I was trying to subtly, publicly tell you the answer since I don’t PM. Wow, nice response.

Considering your reply had nothing to do with what I actually said (because you used the quote function incorrectly), your cryptic post was useless...

JMintzer 03-15-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2072820)
Quote function was used and what was a cryptic insult? I was trying to subtly, publicly tell you the answer since I don’t PM. Wow, nice response.

Okay, maybe I overreacted. but...

The quote function was use incorrectly. You have yourself quoting what I said... (see post #80)

As to your comment about whom you were responding to, it was MartinSE, I don't see a B or an O anywhere. So no, I don't "got it"...

And I'm at a loss why the PM function is outside your realm of possibilities...

Aces4 03-15-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072856)
Okay, maybe I overreacted. but...

The quote function was use incorrectly. You have yourself quoting what I said... (see post #80)

As to your comment about whom you were responding to, it was MartinSE, I don't see a B or an O anywhere. So no, I don't "got it"...

And I'm at a loss why the PM function is outside your realm of possibilities...

The quote function worked just fine for it’s purpose. This person was a Marine many moons ago and this forum was his theater for soapbox political diatribes which got him kicked often and maybe permanently. MartinSE name has nothing to do with his old handle which started with a B and ended with o with letters in between. Sorry if it was confusing.

I don’t PM because of neutrality. I appreciate the food for thought on this forum but when people want to connect, they normally like lockstep thinking and send personal information or venom toward others. Anything I share is public, has nothing to do with you.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2072866)
The quote function worked just fine for it’s purpose. This person was a Marine many moons ago and this forum was his theater for soapbox political diatribes which got him kicked often and maybe permanently. MartinSE name has nothing to do with his old handle which started with a B and ended with o with letters in between. Sorry if it was confusing.

I don’t PM because of neutrality. I appreciate the food for thought on this forum but when people want to connect, they normally like lockstep thinking and send personal information or venom toward others. Anything I share is public, has nothing to do with you.

Nope. Your post (#80) had you quoted as saying something I said...

As to with an alias, I still have no idea who you're talking about.

"Neutrality"? Okay, if you say so...

Aces4 03-15-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2072875)
Nope. Your post (#80) had you quoted as saying something I said...

As to with an alias, I still have no idea who you're talking about.

"Neutrality"? Okay, if you say so...



YOU sent me the PM wanting to know who a poster was.

I sent you that quote so you could see he was a soldier which aligned with his former posting identity, he has a new alias.

Yes, neutrality! And with that I’m done. I’m sure others here have the answer already.

JMintzer 03-15-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2072885)
YOU sent me the PM wanting to know who a poster was.

I sent you that quote so you could see he was a soldier which aligned with his former posting identity, he has a new alias.

Yes, neutrality! And with that I’m done. I’m sure others here have the answer already.

Yes, because you seemed to know who he was. The simple response was to answer in kind (via PM), but no, YOU had to make a big deal about it and make it public...

Unlike you, I rarely remember the history of every poster on TOTV...

What this has to do with "neutrality" escapes me...

A simple response of "I'd rather not say" would have been much easier...


P.S. Points given for correctly quoting me!

MorTech 03-15-2022 10:05 PM

In Soviet Union, grave roll you.

davem4616 03-15-2022 10:38 PM

Russia may be able to level the Ukrainian landscape by force, and replace the leaders with puppets, but Russia will never conquer the hearts of the people of Ukraine that have tasted freedom...

Someone down at City Fire said that Putin was intent on reestablishing the buffer between Russia and the NATO countries that he had with the pro-Russian government that had been in place in the Ukraine...the one that the West helped put the skids under
...I wasn't able to hear the rest of his story, our table was ready and we left the bar area

Lottoguy 03-16-2022 09:16 AM

I thought Stalin is in a glass case in Red Square? Or was that Walt Disney?

Lottoguy 03-16-2022 09:19 AM

You'd be surprised what the USA has in weapons that nobody knows about. Remember the stealth program 40 years ago?

Lottoguy 03-16-2022 09:27 AM

I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

Stu from NYC 03-16-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2073203)
I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

Nobody would win an all out nuclear war.

MartinSE 03-16-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2073203)
I guess Putin doesn't know anything about how the wind works and radiation?

Putin is a sociopath and part of that is narcissism. As such, he can't concieve that anyone can stand up to him, or beat him. He seriously believes he can do anything he wants.

If you have been following the news reports, it seems he has been very angry with some of his generals because things are not going how he thought they should. Being a narcissist it can't be his mistake, so he has to blame others.

This relates to the MAD issue. He can't conceive that he could be destroyed. So, it is not a deterrent to him. Our best hope is either a special forces team sent in to assassinate him, or some of his own people take him out.

It is a very precarious situation for everyone.

JMintzer 03-16-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2073195)
I thought Stalin is in a glass case in Red Square? Or was that Walt Disney?

Walt's on ice, under the Magic Kingdom...

jimjamuser 03-17-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2071966)
An old Battalion Commander once told me that you should pound the enemy with long range ordinance unmercifully before committing troops.
It seems that the Russians are following a slow methodical advance, saving the troops for the occupation.

Putin has 7,000 dead and about 14,000 injured. A lot of Russian tank crews have left their tanks sit there and given up or just walked away. I'll be curious how things go when the US Switchblade drones are used. I think that it is about 50/50 that the Ukraine wins the war outright. And about 50/50 that Putin gets overthrown. Most Dictators do not last more than 20 years. Germany's army will be stronger than the Russian army in about 2 years.

GRACEALLEMAN 03-17-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2071970)
I guess we will find out how crazy Putin really is. He is threatening to target weapons systems bing brought into Ukraine. If he does that while they are still in Poland, then we have an attack on a NATO ally and will have to respond. If we have to respond, I hope we respond with overwhelming force and not get into a tit-for-tat match.

Biden is a mannequin shell. No Brainer that he is weak

jimjamuser 03-21-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2073003)
Russia may be able to level the Ukrainian landscape by force, and replace the leaders with puppets, but Russia will never conquer the hearts of the people of Ukraine that have tasted freedom...

Someone down at City Fire said that Putin was intent on reestablishing the buffer between Russia and the NATO countries that he had with the pro-Russian government that had been in place in the Ukraine...the one that the West helped put the skids under
...I wasn't able to hear the rest of his story, our table was ready and we left the bar area

The real reason that Putin invaded Ukraine was that he saw them having a better life by becoming Western - while the lives of ordinary Russians were stuck in a bad place and going nowhere. Eventually, with social media, the Russians would want what the Ukrainians have and begin to blame Putin and his Oligarchs. Then Putin could lose his position or even his life. So, that fear was driving him. And this was a good time because Europe was weak and not united - and America was divided. But, America surprised him by exhibiting togetherness and strong leadership. Now it is going to be difficult for Putin to call back his massive slow-moving Military. Putin almost must go forward - no matter how much it costs him in economic terms and soldiers' lives lost. He will either break the Ukraine or Russia. He may (?) get so desperate as to use tactical nuclear missiles, possibly at Mariupol.

MartinSE 03-21-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACEALLEMAN (Post 2073844)
Biden is a mannequin shell. No Brainer that he is weak

Wow, you know people have been given timeout for less political statements. I don't recall saying ANYTHING ab out Biden, but you just could not resist the opportunity to spew your political beliefs. #sad.

MartinSE 03-21-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2075421)
The real reason that Putin invaded Ukraine was that he saw them having a better life by becoming Western - while the lives of ordinary Russians were stuck in a bad place and going nowhere. Eventually, with social media, the Russians would want what the Ukrainians have and begin to blame Putin and his Oligarchs. Then Putin could lose his position or even his life. So, that fear was driving him. And this was a good time because Europe was weak and not united - and America was divided. But, America surprised him by exhibiting togetherness and strong leadership. Now it is going to be difficult for Putin to call back his massive slow-moving Military. Putin almost must go forward - no matter how much it costs him in economic terms and soldiers' lives lost. He will either break the Ukraine or Russia. He may (?) get so desperate as to use tactical nuclear missiles, possibly at Mariupol.

I agree with you, but I think you left out the why, that being that Ukraine is a Democracy and Putin could not risk Russians seeing a next door Democracy resulting in a better life than his dictatorship.

Stu from NYC 03-21-2022 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2075427)
I agree with you, but I think you left out the why, that being that Ukraine is a Democracy and Putin could not risk Russians seeing a next door Democracy resulting in a better life than his dictatorship.

You should add Russia very much wants a buffer between itself and Germany/Ukraine

camaguey48 03-21-2022 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072005)
Sorry, you are completely wrong on that post. I am not sure where you get that, but we both have the ability to completely destroy each other.

And no one wins.

Taltarzac725 03-21-2022 10:45 PM

How Putin Bungled His Invasion of Ukraine

I do hope this is Putin's Waterloo moment so to speak.

Taltarzac725 03-22-2022 12:10 AM

Battle of Cartagena de Indias - Wikipedia

Or maybe Putin's attack on Ukraine will wind up like the huge failure described above and by Gregory S. Aldrete, Ph.D. Professor, University of Wisconsin, Green Bay in his DVD and/or online course. The Great Courses

jimjamuser 03-22-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2075427)
I agree with you, but I think you left out the why, that being that Ukraine is a Democracy and Putin could not risk Russians seeing a next door Democracy resulting in a better life than his dictatorship.

True. I was trying to say the same thing when I wrote that the Ukraine was looking to the West.


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