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Two Bills 06-22-2021 04:31 AM

In UK there are very few deaths from gun crime.
Somewhere between 30-40 a year.
Guns in circulation are mainly with gangs.
Most gun deaths and crimes are gang related.
Win! Win!!

LateBoomer 06-22-2021 05:11 AM

13% of the population accounts for more than 50% of the violent crimes. an "uncomfortable truth" for many I guess

LoisR 06-22-2021 05:45 AM

Who are you looking to blame? How about the NRA and the politicians they support them?

cegallup 06-22-2021 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1962966)
I am currently reading a recently published book (2021) that reveals statistics on violent crimes, including murders, committed within the USA by members of four "racial" groups: White, Black, Latino and Asian. The author shows boiled down results from relatively large data bases such as those kept by the FBI.

The facts are an eye opener!

The book is "Facing Reality" by Charles Murray.

It's not Politics - it's the demise of our culture.

The lawlessness in this country is shameful - and the "politicians" are at fault.

birdawg 06-22-2021 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1963027)
So now the topic is "people shot by the police"?

Is there a program I can follow? I'm having trouble keeping up...

Let’s talk about percentages of people on television commercials

Bay Kid 06-22-2021 05:54 AM

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

LateBoomer 06-22-2021 06:12 AM

13% of the population accounts for more than 50% of the violent crimes. now that's a statistic that cannot be dismissed. just an "uncomfortable truth"

nick demis 06-22-2021 06:14 AM

As the saying goes "Guns don't kill. People kill". So maybe we should lock up the people that use the guns that kill. Just a new concept.

Billy1 06-22-2021 06:24 AM

A persons fear can be measured by the number of guns they have. Seek the love of God.

J1ceasar 06-22-2021 06:49 AM

That certainly is not the way to look at statistics

J1ceasar 06-22-2021 07:01 AM

Statistics of violence and crime.
 
One of the best places to look for statistics on crime and violence is that website maintained by the FBI. I will be very blunt and use the statistic most people quote that 83% of all violent crime is caused by 13% of the population mainly the black American Male. Further of all the deaths of black American males more than 80% is caused by other black American males . Police in their pursuit of their duties cause an incredibly minor percentage of deaths of blacks and even the police in those cases are mostly black.

All of that being said the statistics are actually probably much skewed to low. The FBI can only report on statistics that are given to them by the cities and states. As an example Rahm Emmanuel decided that crime reports in Chicago would not have a line to report the race of the victim or the perpetrator when he got elected as mayor of Chicago there for Chicago not show the very high growing rates by blacks that's one way to skew the reports. As someone reported crime is definitely related to income but as I always say your income is basically your own problem don't blame race color on income . Virtually every immigrant group excluding the blacks has raised themselves up from being poor. The Irish in the 1920s and the Jews learn to get jobs get their kids into colleges and grew incomes . The waves of Puerto Ricans and Cubans that have come in over the years have for the most part done the same. Indians and pakistanis has supported each other by giving loans to buy hotels restaurants etc. The blacks have not understood that education and income go hand in hand and you can't be blaming everyone but yourselves. I am not trying to make a totally blanket statement as obviously there are black Americans that are successful . And I certainly don't mean to cause offense to anyone so I apologize in advance. Please feel free to Google the statistics yourselves. I also want you to research several books by a Steven farren who postulates that the black races that came out of Africa have IQs that are several points lower than most of the world wide races. It's not a popular viewpoint but it has a huge statistical base

graciegirl 06-22-2021 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 1963248)
Let’s talk about percentages of people on television commercials

It appears that whoever guides the advertising agencies must be the real rulers of this land.

I cannot decide if the images we have seen over time of housewives in high heels and financially secure and quite beautiful families have made the world a better place but those scenes we see to sell us things most certainly do NOT represent the real world.

When parts of society are focused on certain groups to encourage social justice for them then we see great focus on those groups in television advertising EXCEPT I do NOT see a lot of Hispanic folks in advertising currently and I don't know why they are left out.

Anyhow YES. I have noticed that television advertising represent the world of the few and an unrealistic world.

Swoop 06-22-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 1962973)
My guess is that if you created a chart showing shooting and/or deaths by income groups, you would see a correlation. Less income = more shootings/deaths. Looking at the numbers that way makes more sense (to me at least). There are fewer low income whites (as a % of whites) so you would expect their numbers to be lower

According to the US government, there are 6,534,462 blacks living below the poverty line in the US and 15,438,528 whites living below the poverty line. Based on your hypothesis whites should be twice as likely to commit a crime with a gun, or be shot than blacks.
But in reality, blacks are more likely to commit gun violence and twice as likely to die from gun violence than whites.

b0bd0herty 06-22-2021 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1962934)
Your chart is on "deaths" by ethnicity... Not "shootings"...

It says nothing about who is doing the shooting...

And what does your last comment have to do with your initial topic?

Believe she is looking for company. Someone to share her belongings with. ;)
(The above is humor folks... used to be prevalent a few years back)

Snprentice 06-22-2021 07:36 AM

I feel the same way. Working and earning a living is something to be proud of no matter of skin color. If more people of color felt this way, there would be less need for living off the government and less time for killing each other.


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