[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Shbullet

Why on earth would you start another thread on this?

Maybe to bring out facts, the truth, show a clear photo and put to rest the obfuscating conspiracy theories and those who have tried so very hard...to compare this with Smollet's disgusting stunt?

That's just a guess though.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by nututv

Talladega Pit Stall layout. We seem to be missing a few hundred stalls. haha

I found this at the top of the first page...on my search.

As I thought...

29 Tracks - 1,684 Stalls - ONLY 1 Noose

In a NASCAR staff report, the organization said “NASCAR officials asked each track to sweep through respective garages.”

Phelps added: “So across those 29 tracks and 1,684 garage stalls, we found only 11 total that had a pull-down rope tied in a knot and only one noose — the one discovered on Sunday in Bubba Wallace’s garage.”

[nututv]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Maybe to bring out facts, the truth, show a clear photo and put to rest the obfuscating conspiracy theories and those who have tried so very hard...to compare this with Smollet's disgusting stunt?

That's just a guess though.

'Maybe to bring out facts, the truth, show a clear photo'... lol The photo is a fake and a key argument in the article (1 out of 1684 plus stalls) has been proven to be wrong by well over 1000. Yeah, sure.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I found this at the top of the first page...on my search.

As I thought...

29 Tracks - 1,684 Stalls - ONLY 1 Noose
I won't waste my time verifying but would you care to put big money on if that number is correct? PM me on the wager please.
1000.00 to the local no kill shelter?

I won't waste my time verifying but would you care to put big money on if that number is correct? PM me if you agree on the wager please.
$1000.00 to the local no kill shelter?

[blueash]

I won't waste my time verifying but would you care to put big money on if that number is correct? PM me if you agree on the wager please.
1000.00 to the local no kill shelter? You have 2 minutes to decide. It's 6.09

And here, and some other posts, we have a perfect example of why I started the thread. Any claim involving Black grievances must be fake, the photo must be doctored, .... I put a link in the original post to show what a hangman's noose looks like but I will add a few to this post which you can compare at your leisure to the one from the NASCAR report. I also very clearly indicated that NASCAR looked at every garage in their system, not just at one track. As to the photo being doctored, I obviously don't have the original but in my copying it from the news report and then copying it again to this website it is entirely possible that the jpeg process made it a bit fuzzy.
The news photo is available on FOX
NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News
and on ESPN
NASCAR releases image of noose found in Bubba Wallace's garage, says concern was 'real'
and many other sites including NASCAR's own website
NASCAR completes investigation into No. 43 at Talladega | NASCAR

Here is the direct quote from NASCAR.com. Looks like you are going to be donating some cash

"After Sunday’s discovery, NASCAR officials asked each track to sweep through respective garages. Across the 1,684 garage stalls at 29 tracks, NASCAR found only 11 total had a pull-down rope tied in a knot and only one noose — the one discovered Sunday in the No. 43 garage stall."

Here are snips of the noose from NASCAR's photo and online drawings and photos. If you want to tell me that the NASCAR noose is not a noose and you're an expert in noose making, I'll take your word for it. Like I said in the thread title, it looks like a noose to me.

[nututv]

As I said in my very first post and I quote. 'Yup, that's a noose alright and from memory, that looks like a stall off pit row.' Regarding degradation of a jpeg you are somewhat correct, but the degradation is global in a picture, not just around the rope part. Honestly, arguing that point is useless. It's not the way bits and byte's work. It's math, it's factual!
Regarding black grievances... I think the cop that started all this should be hung by a black guy in a public square. That said, I'm not going to lie to make my already flawed argument look any better or look the other direction when someone that may agree with me does something wrong.

[DeanFL]

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1. It was a short smal rope with a noose-type knot.
2. It was attached to the garage DOOR, not a ceiling rafter or tree limb.
3. It was at that same place on the same door (documented) since Fall of 2019.
4. It was NOT KNOWN that Wallace would be assigned #4 garage.

but - the Wallace team, NASCAR, and of course the Press JUMPED on this with abandon - 15 FBI agents assigned - and the Media made this the spectacle that (unfortunately) we are still talking about.

Case closed - and should have been dropped within 20 minutes after finding it.

Nope - yet another overblown and overreacted matter. period. I'm SO done with this.
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Originally Posted by nututv

See post about my thoughts on MSM and that includes FOX. That is why I haven't turned on a TV set in just ov er 4 years now. It's either bomb throwers or shows that do nothing but insult my intelligence, raise my BP and use up too many of my synapses.

same here, no TV news

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by nututv

I'm desperate? I've proven the article wrong on several things yet you're still trying to defend it. lol Article said it was a noose in the garage. That was wrong. Article said 29 tracks, NASCAR says they have 30. I'm the one that not an hour ago posted how the MSM is full of crap and just proved it multiple times with just 1 article and... I'm willing to drop 1k at a shelter because even though I haven't researched it, I'm so confident that they are wrong I'm willing to put money on it. BTW. My PM is empty and I gave you 16 minutes.
Nice try but as they say nowadays, youv'e been owned.

I thought you said there was a MOOSE in the garage, hahahaah, now, where the heck are my glasses.

[nututv]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

I thought you said there was a MOOSE in the garage, hahahaah, now, where the heck are my glasses.

I could photoshop Bullwinkle in if you would like but they'll call it a fake. lol

[nututv]

Well son of a gun. You quoted the same thing I did and yours doesn't have the +1 or the word other in it either.
Just because I don't believe the lies, distortions and propaganda used to try and make a point does not at all mean I don't believe in the fight for equality. No matter what damn color.

Originally Posted by blueash

And here, and some other posts, we have a perfect example of why I started the thread. Any claim involving Black grievances must be fake, the photo must be doctored, .... I put a link in the original post to show what a hangman's noose looks like but I will add a few to this post which you can compare at your leisure to the one from the NASCAR report. I also very clearly indicated that NASCAR looked at every garage in their system, not just at one track. As to the photo being doctored, I obviously don't have the original but in my copying it from the news report and then copying it again to this website it is entirely possible that the jpeg process made it a bit fuzzy.
The news photo is available on FOX
NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News
and on ESPN
NASCAR releases image of noose found in Bubba Wallace's garage, says concern was 'real'
and many other sites including NASCAR's own website
NASCAR completes investigation into No. 43 at Talladega | NASCAR

Here is the direct quote from NASCAR.com. Looks like you are going to be donating some cash

"After Sunday’s discovery, NASCAR officials asked each track to sweep through respective garages. Across the 1,684 garage stalls at 29 tracks, NASCAR found only 11 total had a pull-down rope tied in a knot and only one noose — the one discovered Sunday in the No. 43 garage stall."

Here are snips of the noose from NASCAR's photo and online drawings and photos. If you want to tell me that the NASCAR noose is not a noose and you're an expert in noose making, I'll take your word for it. Like I said in the thread title, it looks like a noose to me.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by nututv

Well son of a gun. You quoted the same thing I did and yours doesn't have the +1 or the word other in it either.
Just because I don't believe the lies, distortions and propaganda used to try and make a point does not at all mean I don't believe in the fight for equality. No matter what damn color.

"After Sunday’s discovery, NASCAR officials asked each track...

So it didn't dawn on you, when NASCAR officials "asked each track," Talledaga wasn't included, because they (and the FBI) were there...and had already looked at all of the other stalls?

[Lindsyburnsy]

My thoughts exactly. That is a noose, regardless of how long it has been hanging there. With all of the Confederate paraphenalia around NASCAR, it is of no surprise that at least one person would think this would catch the eye of someone sooner or later. There are lots of knots, but only one knot is a noose and this was it.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by nututv

Here's the proof. Whoever did it got sloppy on the blending of the background on the end of the rope coming out of the knot.
I won't call it fake news. Just a fake pic.

I agree. If you enlarge the photo it's easy to see where color has been added above the end of the rope where it passes across the image of the edge of the garage. It's much blacker than the background color. That leaves a couple of possibilities. It may be just a touchup job to make the rope stand out, which is shaky but OK, I guess. Or it can be a Photoshop job to embellish the narrative. And not OK. At this point it's hard to take anything about the incident as certain.

[manaboutown]

It looks to me like Bubba successfully jumped into the national spotlight by playing the race card rather than driving his race car. His stunt reminds me of that of Jussie Smollett whose acting career was pretty ho hum but who is now world famous.