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Two Bills 01-10-2023 01:29 PM
I have no dog in the fight regarding US law, guns, and their legal use.
But.
Looking at that video, the last shot after the customer has taken the weapon away from the robber, could be a problem if he is charged.

retiredguy123 01-10-2023 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2174612)
Yes, I agree that would/will/could be the "hinge" on this one, emptying the weapon as "excessive" use of a stopping measure ? Can a reaction to fear from having just faced the threat of death, result in an emotional response like that ? You hear of situations like that in combat, when and individual, faced with instant death, reacts with "over kill". Frankly I don't know how any of us knows for sure how we would react. Again, I go back to an individual making a decision to threaten others at gun point, is taking a huge risk.
Yes, bringing a fake gun to a gun fight is not a good idea. But, even when the robber was lying on the ground, I think the shooter had every right to believe that the robber had a loaded gun and was still a threat.

Djean1981 01-10-2023 01:32 PM
The robber could have shot patrons on the way out.

Babubhat 01-10-2023 01:34 PM
Non issue. Lots of legal theatrics

Rainger99 01-10-2023 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2174622)
Looking at that video, the last shot after the customer has taken the weapon away from the robber, could be a problem if he is charged.
The issue is whether the robber would have survived from being shot 6-7 times. It would be tough for a coroner to conclude, beyond a reasonable doubt, that but for the last shot, he would have survived.

If he was still alive and conscious, he would still be deemed a threat.

In addition, cops are usually trained to not pause their fire and to shoot in quick succession.

Papa_lecki 01-10-2023 01:55 PM
Records indicate that the robbery suspect, Eric Washington, had an extensive criminal history and was out on bond at the time of the fatal shooting.

In 2015, Washington was convicted of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and sentenced to 15 years in prison in connection with the fatal shooting of 62-year-old Hamid Waraich two years prior.

Washington was released on parole in 2021 after serving less than half of his sentence, but he was back behind bars in mid-December after being arrested for allegedly shoving and scratching his girlfriend.

Rainger99 01-10-2023 02:02 PM
According to police records, in 2015, the robber was convicted on a lesser charge of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and sentenced to 15 years in prison in connection to the shooting death of a 62-year-old man.

He was released on parole in 2021 and charged with assaulting his girlfriend in December 2022. He was back on the street at the time of the robbery.

If he had served the 15 years, he would still be in prison.

JMintzer 01-10-2023 02:33 PM
To those who want to stress, "it was only a toy gun"...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnoxAQZU8AAGGWp.jpg

fishon 01-10-2023 02:49 PM
Glad the robber was shot to death.
Buzz in TX is he won’t be turned in and the street level cops aren’t looking.

Stu from NYC 01-10-2023 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2174426)
The robber didn't actually ever physically harm anyone. The shooter killed someone. If the robber had been disarmed, alive, he would not have been executed for the crime of robbery. The crime of robbery doesn't come with a death sentence. The shooter took the law into his own hands, and executed someone who deserved jail time - not death.

Vigilante justice only encourages people to be violent, it doesn't solve crime. It IS a crime. You don't fight fire with an atom bomb, you don't fight robbery with death.
So in other words lets wait until the guy shoots someone and than ok to use force? What if it was you in the restaurant and you had every reason to believe he had a real gun?

Stu from NYC 01-10-2023 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2174640)
According to police records, in 2015, the robber was convicted on a lesser charge of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and sentenced to 15 years in prison in connection to the shooting death of a 62-year-old man.

He was released on parole in 2021 and charged with assaulting his girlfriend in December 2022. He was back on the street at the time of the robbery.

If he had served the 15 years, he would still be in prison.
In other words what a wonderful guy? Perhaps the next crook will think twice about robbery.

Two Bills 01-10-2023 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2174633)
The issue is whether the robber would have survived from being shot 6-7 times. It would be tough for a coroner to conclude, beyond a reasonable doubt, that but for the last shot, he would have survived.

If he was still alive and conscious, he would still be deemed a threat.

In addition, cops are usually trained to not pause their fire and to shoot in quick succession.
No longer armed and with multiple gunshot wounds.
Not much of a threat to life.
Debatable!
But the law will decide, not us speculators on TOTV!

ThirdOfFive 01-10-2023 04:11 PM
Bottom line:

Who would you rather have in the restaurant if you were dining there?

The thug?

Or the guy who shot the thug?

ThirdOfFive 01-10-2023 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2174640)
According to police records, in 2015, the robber was convicted on a lesser charge of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and sentenced to 15 years in prison in connection to the shooting death of a 62-year-old man.

He was released on parole in 2021 and charged with assaulting his girlfriend in December 2022. He was back on the street at the time of the robbery.

If he had served the 15 years, he would still be in prison.
So much for the legal system. The plea bargains and revolving doors continue to subject the general public to ever-greater threats from human detritus such as Mr. Washington.

photo1902 01-10-2023 04:22 PM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2174402)
A robber enters a restaurant and goes from table to table pointing a gun at every diner and steals their money. Then, another diner pulls out a gun and shoots the robber dead. He returns the money to the customers. It was all captured on video. Now, the state is considering charging the guy who killed the robber with a crime. Really? I would give the guy a medal. They better not put me on the jury.
Why would you be serving on a jury in Texas


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