Falling on deaf ears?
 

Your response (first sentence) to the "Sweden never locked down" comment was correct. Unfortunately, those that keep making that statement don't want to acknowledge your sensible reply because it debunks their belief that the "lockdown" was useless or some political conspiracy. Just MHO.

I doubt anyone even still reading this thread, but gotta say it anyway. IT WAS THE ANNUAL FLU. It killed a lot of people and is a true tragedy for those families and friends. Let me make that point with a few examples: (1) Just two years ago the US lost 81,000 plus to the annual flu. (2) If not for the gross inflation of this year's deaths we would be under that! (2) Look up the on line CDC instructions for death certificates. They clearly state if it is even possible that the victim had corona virus, count it. No test or autopsy required! (3) Hospitals are struggling and will be paid $19,000 per Covid-19 classification admission. They are capped at $6,000 for other admissions....which code would you use? (4) Look at US numbers versus world-wide. Do you really believe we have 30% of all world wide deaths?

Relative to total population the infection rate in Sweden (0.3%) was lower than in the US (0.5%). Also, relative to total population the death rate in Sweden (0.04%) was 33% higher than the US (0.03%). Interestingly, the death rate relative to those infected in Sweden (12.1%) was twice as high as in the US (5.9%).

I'm not going to even check your numbers because I doubt you figured asymptomatic cases into the equation. Sweden's chief epidemiologist said they were getting close to herd immunity last month, So their death rate is much lower, infection rate higher, and their daily death rate is going down. Without complete lockdown and wrecking their economy.

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This is a very strange graph. Two graph lines are not labeled. The legend does not correspond to the graph. What is Oceania on the graph? I'm not sure I would trust this graph.

The common cold is not a coronavirus.

Graph is from worldindata.com. They get their numbers from CDC equivalents in various countries. You can pick various countries to graph, including ones located in Oceania. Oceania is in a continental group consisting of numerous countries and includes Pacific islands and Australia.

Better let the CDC know

Common human coronaviruses, including types 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1, usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold

Common Human Coronaviruses | CDC

I merely used the numbers that are reported and did the math making no effort to take into account any other factors. Yes, I fully realize there are myriad factors that will enter the picture that haven't yet been considered such as severity of the lockdown, face covering, reporting of asymptomatic cases, etc. In time the important contributing factors will need to be taken into account for a more accurate analysis and assessment regarding the effectiveness of each nation's response - what worked and what didn't work.

This face cannot be doubted
 

Is there something about this statement I made in post # 30 that you do not understand?

This doesn't prevent me from considering that the whole worldwide lockdown was an error since 80% or more of deaths are from nursing homes and old people with pre existing health problems. A policy of just isolating seniors and strict rules, PPE for all nursing home staff etc would have saved more lives and allowed younger people to keep working with some precautions and not crash the economy.

I wish people would read entire threads before commenting so they won't waste their time arguing against straw men that don't exist.

Hindsight is always 20/20. We still don't know nearly enough about this virus but we know a whole lot more than we did when the various types of lockdowns began. The longer people, especially vulnerable people, self-isolate, the better the chance that when/if they eventually DO get infected, enough will be known to allow for much more effective treatment. Seems worth the wait and inconvenience to me.

Again?
 

The person I responded to had measured Sweden (no lockdown) against their immediate neighbors that did lockdown and fared much better. Compare like to like. Comparing Sweden to the USA is ,IMHO, like comparing NYC to some tiny town in the mid-west.

I was appropriately responding to someone else's comment. Secondly, your comparison is absurd, but you have every right to make it. Thirdly, here are the numbers you suggest regarding the effect of no lockdown in Sweden.
Death rate per 1 million in population:
Sweden - 3213
Denmark - 1939
Norway - 1554
Finland - 1188

Well . . . . .
 

All good and well for 70 days. HOWEVER! There are many more days to come.
"It ain't over till the portly lady warbles.