[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Dahabs

I used to think that way as well. Need to dig deeper into the underlying issues such as poverty, systemic and institutionalized racism. Just because there are many black on black homicides does not mean police killings should be ignored. Need to get out from our cocoon.

It’s interesting how the media spits out a catch phrase and people repeat it like it’s true. The latest favorites are “systemic and institutionalized racism“. Not based on any facts or statistics, but automatically accepted and regurgitated back out. You “feel” police are systematically racist? Show me the numbers that support that false narrative.

[meridian5850]

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

Sorry, but you've got it exactly backwards about those who watch Fox News Channel. How can they (Fox) influence anyone who already has conservative beliefs? It's the only network conservatives can stomach, because the actual fiction in the media is being put out by CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. all who produce fiction on a daily basis. You don't think we've looked at other media sources? Sorry, but we have and can't reconcile what they're putting out with what we see and experience in our daily lives.

Also, please cite an accepted reference that says 10% of all police are brutal murderers. You actually just plucked that number from the ether because you have no concept of math. As an example, Wildwood Police Dept. has 1,300 officers, so by your numbers 130 are brutal, racist murderers. I'm sure you can find a story online or in a newspaper informing all us about it. I'll be waiting...

[MandoMan]

One thing I’ve notice while reading the crime reports in the tri-county area is that a large percentage of the arrests are due to drugs, especially marijuana. Often, only a small amount is found, clearly for personal use. Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Of course, would it lead to better-educated kids? No way! Fewer teenage pregnancies? Not likely! Fewer shootings? I doubt it! But it could save money.

[WesMan]

You are totally correct!!!!! Thanks !!!!

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

Walter E. Williams: The true plight of black Americans
By Walter E. Williams Jun 10, 2020

White liberals and black politicians focus most of their attention on what the police do, but how relevant is that to the overall tragedy? According to Statista, this year, 172 whites and 88 blacks have died at the hands of police. To put police shootings in a bit of perspective, in Chicago alone in 2020 there have been 1,260 shootings and 256 homicides with blacks being the primary victims. That comes to one shooting victim every three hours and one homicide victim every 15 hours. Three people in Chicago have been killed by police. If one is truly concerned about black deaths, shootings by police should figure way down on one's list – which is not to excuse bad behavior by some police officers.
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BTW - below> a picture of Walter Willams...

MUCH more of the article>
ENTIRE ARTICLE>
https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/walt...d370f7e6d.html

You are totally correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[GoodLife]

This post is well written white speak

Thank you! I am indeed white and write well because both my parents were teachers.

You obviously watch Faux News

Not. I rarely watch network news broadcasts. Too much spin not enough actual reporting. However, if one only watched CNN and MSNBC news, for 3 years they were fed a pack of lies about Russian collusion and ended up very disappointed when zero people were prosecuted for it. Under oath testimony of all those who spread those lies shows they never saw any evidence of it. Must have been a big disappointment. Another big surprise is coming soon when several individuals at the FBI receive indictments for lying to the FISA court, leaking classified info to press etc and engineering the Russian collusion scam.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by Brandigirl

Candace Owens: "I DO NOT support George Floyd!" & Here's Why! | Durtty Daily - YouTube

She is totally correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gail swanson]

So true

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

One thing I’ve notice while reading the crime reports in the tri-county area is that a large percentage of the arrests are due to drugs, especially marijuana. Often, only a small amount is found, clearly for personal use. Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Of course, would it lead to better-educated kids? No way! Fewer teenage pregnancies? Not likely! Fewer shootings? I doubt it! But it could save money.

Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joseppe]

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

Your 'systemic issue' will never be resolved. You cannot pass a law to make people feel differently or to eliminate prejudice and/or racism. Humans, just as animals will almost always gravitate toward their own kind. That is human characteristic. In depth background checks can only weed out past actions, it cannot weed out a persons true feelings. I'd say there are very few people, if any that could forget religion, color, nationality or anything else about their personal makeup.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by ithos

Do you think this may be a factor?

https://www.educationnext.org/files/...ahan_fig01.jpg

From the New York Times of all places.

Yet 20 years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. spoke candidly about the black family, spelling out the ''alarming'' statistics on ''the rate of illegitimacy,'' the increase in female-headed households and the rise in families on welfare. The black family, King asserted, had become ''fragile, deprived and often psychopathic.''

RESTORING THE TRADITIONAL BLACK FAMILY - The New York Times

You nailed it!!

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by Jima64

financially it is to my advantage to always be the victim. leave me and my bros alone.

You nailed half of the problem with your first sentence. The other half of the problem is white guilt. Resolve those two problems and you’ll have a cure. It won’t be easy or quick. Nothing worthwhile ever is.

[camaguey48]

How come looters don't loot bookstores?

Spoken like a true white person.

Seattle's abandoned police precinct was taken over by mostly whites and they invited blacks to join them. BLM has publicly stated that these people don't represent them.

Black on black crime has it's root causes as well as well as dependence on social services. That topic would require an expert to weigh in and I'm not an expert.

I don't believe the black members of the villages feel comfortable with so many post about current affairs. I could be wrong though. I will point out that in less than a years time I have heard the N word freely spoken in my presence more than in my entire lifetime. All spoken by residents. I'm not saying the villages is full of racist but it feels like the racist population may be higher than the national average? Maybe that's because the villages has a dense population of older white people? It's just a feeling and I don't have any facts other than my observations to support those feelings.

[davem4616]

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

We're trying to have a civil back and forth of thoughts, ideas and opinions in this thread and you come out swinging and bashing folks with venom that you don't even know that may prefer Fox to CNN for what reason....because you suspect that their viewpoint MIGHT be different from yours?

Then you preach to others about superiority? Wow! Get real...go take a look in the mirror and you'll see a shining example of someone that sees themselves as superior to others!

Spoiler Alert: much of what is being presented as news today on any network is all spin...it's all about the ratings and avoiding saying anything that might cause a sponsor to pull their ads to distance themselves from some punitive boycott

BTW - I'm curious...what's your very best favorite Kool Aid flavor?