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These "protests" are now a 'normal/organic' matter in so many cities now. Very disturbing, and growing in violence and disregard for law & order. Many of these cities are out of control and impacting economy, safety, local business, etc.

Isn't it time for these locales to set a curfew? Provide time and space for daytime peaceful protests et al. But after a certain night-hour, curfew - since this is when the RIOTING begins.

Or - a 'State of Emergency' - a situation in which a government is empowered to perform actions or impose policies that it would normally not be permitted to undertake. A government can declare such a state during a natural disaster, civil unrest, armed conflict, medical pandemic or epidemic or other biosecurity risk.

How much more can out country take? If a line is not drawn by government, I see this continuing and growing thru Nov 3rd...

NEWS>>>

American mayhem: More rioting and lawlessness in cities across US

Another night of rioting and lawlessness exploded in more than half a dozen U.S. cities Saturday night -- with the mayhem including damage to federal buildings, local police precincts, and a fatal shooting in Austin, Texas.

Similar protests and violent demonstrations have been seen across the country following the death of George Floyd, a Black man in Minnesota who died while in police custody. A video of the May 25, 2020, encounter with police officers showed a White officer putting his knee on Floyd's neck for more than 8 minutes. Floyd died later that day.

Floyd's death -- as well as the police shooting death of Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky, and other Black men and women -- sparked widespread protests and demonstrations in the U.S. and across the world, which still continue in some cities to this day.

Here’s a recap of some of the developments in a sampling of cities.

Portland, Ore.: Courthouse fence breached
A huge crowd that included the Wall of Moms and the Wall of Vets turned out for yet another day and night of rioting and lawlessness in Portland, Ore., a city that has seen more than 50 consecutive days of such behavior since Floyd's death.

Early Sunday local time, rioters broke through a reinforced fence that surrounded the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse in the downtown area, OregonLive.com reported.

Federal agents assigned to guard the building deployed tear gas and the Portland police declared the scene a riot around 1:15 a.m. local time, the report said.

Seattle: Explosive blows hole in precinct wall
At one point during Saturday’s daylong protests in Seattle, rioters threw an explosive device that created an eight-inch hole in a wall of the police department’s East District, police Chief Carmen Best said, according to the Seattle Times.

“What we saw today was not peaceful,” Best said. “The rioters had no regard for the public’s safety, for officers’ safety or for the businesses and property that they destroyed.”
Police reported making 45 arrests near the East Precinct as of 10 p.m. local time. They said 21 officers were hit by bricks, rocks and explosives. Most of the injured officers were able to return to work, police said in a Twitter message.
Conditions in the area had been declared a riot at 4:30 p.m. after police officers were being assaulted and protesters failed to disperse, Q13 FOX of Seattle reported.

Police reported numerous fires and explosions.

Best said police planned to use less-lethal crowd management tools, but not tear gas, despite a federal judge’s decision late Friday blocking a city council ban on the equipment that was scheduled to take effect Sunday, the Seattle Times reported.

A Starbucks store was destroyed and other businesses were covered with graffiti, the outlet reported.

Austin, Texas: Fatal shooting
A fatal shooting occurred around 9:50 p.m. during a protest in the city, according to reports.

Police said a man carrying a weapon approached a vehicle – but a person inside the vehicle fatally shot the man, the Austin American Statesman reported.

Aurora, Colo.: Vehicle drives through crowd; courthouse fire
A frightening moment happened along Interstate 225 when a vehicle drove through a crowd of marchers in Aurora, Colo., The Guardian reported. At least one person was struck by the vehicle and was taken to a hospital.
Elsewhere in the city, demonstrators pushed down a fence, threw objects at police officers, broke windows and started a fire inside the city’s courthouse on Saturday night, Denver’s KCNC-TV reported.

The unrest was associated with the death of Elijah McClain, a Black man who died after an altercation with police nearly a year ago, the station reported.

Oakland, Calif.: Courthouse fire
Hundreds of protesters marched through downtown Oakland, smashing windows of the city’s police headquarters and setting a fire inside the Alameda County courthouse, according to reports.
Omaha: ‘Potential of getting violent’ prompts arrests
Between 75 and 80 protesters were taken into custody after police declared an unlawful assembly, the Omaha World-Herald reported.

The crowd started blocking traffic around 9:15 p.m. and police were seeing Facebook posts suggesting that damage was being planned for the downtown area.

“It leaned toward the potential of getting violent,” Omaha Police Capt. Mark Matuza told the newspaper.

The crowd was protesting the May 30 shooting death of James Scurlock, 22, for which Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine declined to file charges, the World-Herald reported – but Kleine agreed two days later to let a grand jury review the case.
Los Angeles: Damage to courthouse, City Hall clash
Rioting in the nation’s second-largest city on Saturday night included broken windows and graffiti at a federal courthouse in the downtown area and police in riot gear facing off against a crowd near City Hall, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Earlier, demonstrators marched along a stretch of Highway 101.

Sgt. Anthony Costello of the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed that some arrests were made, including for vandalism, but was uncertain how many rioters had been apprehended.

[billethkid]

With all the laws these terrorists are breaking with the mayor/governor remaining hands off.....why would anybody think a curfew would be honored?
Enforced by who?

Letting the police and what ever help they need enforce the existing laws and bull doze the violators aside or to jail is a readily available solution.......very simple but being denied.!!

[davem4616]

setting a curfew would seem to be a pretty academic move

these thugs aren't protesting anything...this is pure anarchy...it's a mob

maybe it's time to bring out the water cannons...I think I read that they did that in Japan recently

[billethkid]

When the solution is known, readily available and being ignored has to make most sentient beings wonder.

Simple solution just not being done!?!?!?!?!

[DeanFL]

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‘Not F–ing Around Coalition’ will burn Louisville down in 4 weeks if demands are not met
By M. Dowling -July 25, 2020

The “Not F-cking Around Coalition,” marched through downtown Louisville. At least two of these ‘highly trained’ militia were shot in the staging area. One of the NFACers shot himself and another in a misfire.

“One person of the #NFAC militia group accidentally discharged his weapon injuring himself and one other individual. Both individuals have been taken away by EMS. One shot in the leg and one shot in the hand,” Disclose.tv reported on Twitter.

When you have lawlessness, as we currently have in the blue cities, this is what you get. All the lunatics fill the void.

HE WILL BURN IT ALL DOWN

The grandmaster Jay gave a speech promising to burn down the city in four weeks if the officers who shot Breanna Taylor aren’t arrested. The feds might have something to say about that. It’s amazing how many people think they have the right to demand arrests.

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[New Englander]

Never in my life could I even imagine the United States allow this anarchy to continue. What is going on? We need law and order now!

[Stu from NYC]

I do not understand how the mayors and governors of these states is allowing this to go on.

Cannot imagine a majority of voters in any city wanting mob rule.

In the local paper today there was an article saying how much murders are up in Chicago but in the good news dept rapes are down.

Can you imagine a mayor saying how proud he/she is of this.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I do not understand how the mayors and governors of these states is allowing this to go on.

Cannot imagine a majority of voters in any city wanting mob rule.

In the local paper today there was an article saying how much murders are up in Chicago but in the good news dept rapes are down.

Can you imagine a mayor saying how proud he/she is of this.

The mob the ones that voted them in knowing they would be weak with there complain promises.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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These "protests" are now a 'normal/organic' matter in so many cities now. Very disturbing, and growing in violence and disregard for law & order. Many of these cities are out of control and impacting economy, safety, local business, etc.

Isn't it time for these locales to set a curfew? Provide time and space for daytime peaceful protests et al. But after a certain night-hour, curfew - since this is when the RIOTING begins.

Or - a 'State of Emergency' - a situation in which a government is empowered to perform actions or impose policies that it would normally not be permitted to undertake. A government can declare such a state during a natural disaster, civil unrest, armed conflict, medical pandemic or epidemic or other biosecurity risk.

How much more can out country take? If a line is not drawn by government, I see this continuing and growing thru Nov 3rd...

NEWS>>>

American mayhem: More rioting and lawlessness in cities across US

Another night of rioting and lawlessness exploded in more than half a dozen U.S. cities Saturday night -- with the mayhem including damage to federal buildings, local police precincts, and a fatal shooting in Austin, Texas.

Similar protests and violent demonstrations have been seen across the country following the death of George Floyd, a Black man in Minnesota who died while in police custody. A video of the May 25, 2020, encounter with police officers showed a White officer putting his knee on Floyd's neck for more than 8 minutes. Floyd died later that day.

Floyd's death -- as well as the police shooting death of Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky, and other Black men and women -- sparked widespread protests and demonstrations in the U.S. and across the world, which still continue in some cities to this day.

Here’s a recap of some of the developments in a sampling of cities.

Portland, Ore.: Courthouse fence breached
A huge crowd that included the Wall of Moms and the Wall of Vets turned out for yet another day and night of rioting and lawlessness in Portland, Ore., a city that has seen more than 50 consecutive days of such behavior since Floyd's death.

Early Sunday local time, rioters broke through a reinforced fence that surrounded the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse in the downtown area, OregonLive.com reported.

Federal agents assigned to guard the building deployed tear gas and the Portland police declared the scene a riot around 1:15 a.m. local time, the report said.

Seattle: Explosive blows hole in precinct wall
At one point during Saturday’s daylong protests in Seattle, rioters threw an explosive device that created an eight-inch hole in a wall of the police department’s East District, police Chief Carmen Best said, according to the Seattle Times.

“What we saw today was not peaceful,” Best said. “The rioters had no regard for the public’s safety, for officers’ safety or for the businesses and property that they destroyed.”
Police reported making 45 arrests near the East Precinct as of 10 p.m. local time. They said 21 officers were hit by bricks, rocks and explosives. Most of the injured officers were able to return to work, police said in a Twitter message.
Conditions in the area had been declared a riot at 4:30 p.m. after police officers were being assaulted and protesters failed to disperse, Q13 FOX of Seattle reported.

Police reported numerous fires and explosions.

Best said police planned to use less-lethal crowd management tools, but not tear gas, despite a federal judge’s decision late Friday blocking a city council ban on the equipment that was scheduled to take effect Sunday, the Seattle Times reported.

A Starbucks store was destroyed and other businesses were covered with graffiti, the outlet reported.

Austin, Texas: Fatal shooting
A fatal shooting occurred around 9:50 p.m. during a protest in the city, according to reports.

Police said a man carrying a weapon approached a vehicle – but a person inside the vehicle fatally shot the man, the Austin American Statesman reported.

Aurora, Colo.: Vehicle drives through crowd; courthouse fire
A frightening moment happened along Interstate 225 when a vehicle drove through a crowd of marchers in Aurora, Colo., The Guardian reported. At least one person was struck by the vehicle and was taken to a hospital.
Elsewhere in the city, demonstrators pushed down a fence, threw objects at police officers, broke windows and started a fire inside the city’s courthouse on Saturday night, Denver’s KCNC-TV reported.

The unrest was associated with the death of Elijah McClain, a Black man who died after an altercation with police nearly a year ago, the station reported.

Oakland, Calif.: Courthouse fire
Hundreds of protesters marched through downtown Oakland, smashing windows of the city’s police headquarters and setting a fire inside the Alameda County courthouse, according to reports.
Omaha: ‘Potential of getting violent’ prompts arrests
Between 75 and 80 protesters were taken into custody after police declared an unlawful assembly, the Omaha World-Herald reported.

The crowd started blocking traffic around 9:15 p.m. and police were seeing Facebook posts suggesting that damage was being planned for the downtown area.

“It leaned toward the potential of getting violent,” Omaha Police Capt. Mark Matuza told the newspaper.

The crowd was protesting the May 30 shooting death of James Scurlock, 22, for which Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine declined to file charges, the World-Herald reported – but Kleine agreed two days later to let a grand jury review the case.
Los Angeles: Damage to courthouse, City Hall clash
Rioting in the nation’s second-largest city on Saturday night included broken windows and graffiti at a federal courthouse in the downtown area and police in riot gear facing off against a crowd near City Hall, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Earlier, demonstrators marched along a stretch of Highway 101.

Sgt. Anthony Costello of the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed that some arrests were made, including for vandalism, but was uncertain how many rioters had been apprehended.

We're getting to the point where martial law needs to be declared in some cities. Normally, I'd say let them burn themselves down but keep in mind there are still a lot of citizens (many of whom are minority) stuck in a lawless hellhole and we can't just abandon them.

The mob historically responds only to force and, as a rule, their courage melts at the first sign of serious force.

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AWFUL!!! How can cities as these in OUR COUNTRY continue to allow this unlawful "behavior". >>>

US PROTESTS Published 2 hours ago
American protests: Demonstrations, violent riots expected to continue throughout the country. Tensions have heightened since federal officials were sent to quell riots in Portland, Oregon

Several cities across America are bracing for more demonstrations and violent rioting this weekend after another night of lawlessness and unrest boiled over into the early hours of Sunday morning, as Antifa and militia groups prepare for further battle against police officers and counter protesters.

Tensions have been heightened at recent demonstrations against racial injustice since federal officials were sent to quell riots in Portland, Ore., that have continued for more than 50 straight days since the May 25 death of George Floyd while in police custody in Minneapolis.

AMERICAN MAYHEM: MORE RIOTING AND LAWLESSNESS IN CITIES ACROSS US

While opposing, heavily armed militia groups in Lousiville, Ky., avoided violence during demonstrations, riots were declared in Portland and Seattle, following a familiar pattern of peaceful protests devolving into destruction and attacks on police.

The chaos in Portland saw rioters break through a reinforced fence surrounding the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse in the city’s downtown, police said. The courthouse has been a target for rioters, who have repeatedly vandalized and damaged the building over multiple nights. Federal officers have recently been assigned to the building.

The huge crowd outside the courthouse included the Wall of Moms and the Wall of Vets. Meanwhile, a Portland resident said last week that Antifa also has been present at the protests.

Gabriel Johnson, a 48-year-old Black man and retired Marine, said that after he went to protest outside the courthouse with his American flag in hand on July 19, he was called racial slurs and members of Antifa followed him home.

“These people have nothing to do with Black lives. Our Black community leaders need to stand up and lead because what's happening is they're letting a group of terrorists that don't represent me use me, and that's not right,” said Johnson.

People in the crowd Saturday night threw rocks, bottles, and unknown liquids over the fence, and were shining lasers and launching fireworks at the building, police said.

As officers tried to disperse the crowd, police said they were hit with bottles and paint balloons. People also shot mortar-style fireworks at officers from the ground and from parking garages.

Portland police said CS gas and other munitions were used to help disperse the crowd. However, many people wore gas masks and wielded makeshift shields, umbrellas, and leaf blowers to try and thwart police attempts to break up the groups.

The crowd dissipated just before 2:30 a.m., police said. Several arrests were made.

SEATTLE POLICE DECLARE RIOT AFTER PROTESTERS SET FIRE TO CONSTRUCTION SITE

In Seattle, thousands of protesters had initially gathered peacefully near downtown in a show of solidarity with fellow demonstrators in Portland. Those protests also turned violent leading into Saturday night.

Protesters broke through a fence where a youth detention facility was being built, with some people setting a fire and damaging a portable trailer, Seattle police said.

At least one rioter broke through a fence line at the police department’s East District precinct and threw an explosive device that left an 8-inch hole in the side of the building.

Rocks, bottles, fireworks, and mortars were thrown at officers as they attempted to clear the area, authorities said. Police deployed sponge rounds, OC spray, and blast balls.

At least 45 people were arrested for assaults on officers, obstruction, and failure to disperse, police said. Twenty-one officers were left with mostly minor injuries. One officer was treated at a hospital for a knee injury.

Antifa also has reportedly been present in Seattle, where members allegedly made a list of businesses to target and destroy, Canadian news outlet the Post-Millenial reported. The list reportedly included Whole Foods and Starbucks.

The reoccurring unrest in Portland and Seattle happened as protests and violence unfolded in other cities across the country.

LOUISVILLE PROTESTS DESCEND INTO CHAOS WHEN ARMED PROTESTER ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTS MEMBERS OF HIS GROUP, INJURING 3

Opposing armed militias marched during the day in Louisville, Ky., where Breonna Taylor was killed by police officers in her apartment. Hundreds of armed, predominantly Black, activists demanding justice were met with a counter-protest from a White militia group. The groups avoided violence as police looked on in full riot gear.

Earlier in the day, a protester accidentally shot three members of his own group at a park where Black activists had gathered, police said. The victims, all of whom were members of the "NFAC" militia group, were taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

A protester in Austin, Texas, was fatally shot, while another protester in the Denver, Colo., suburb of Aurora was also shot. The Colorado shooting victim was taken to a hospital in stable condition, police said.

Protesters in Aurora also broke windows to the courthouse and a fire was started in an office, police said. An unlawful assembly was declared, and police ordered protesters to leave the area.


Law enforcement officers in Richmond, Va., used chemical agents and flash bangs to disperse crowds after a dumpster was set on fire outside the Richmond Police Department headquarters, the Richmond Times-Dispatch reported.

Courthouses in two California cities were also targets for vandalism, which included graffiti and broken windows. A fire was set inside the Alameda County Courthouse in Oakland, while police in riot gear faced off against a crowd near Los Angeles' City Hall, according to local reports.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

We're getting to the point where martial law needs to be declared in some cities. Normally, I'd say let them burn themselves down but keep in mind there are still a lot of citizens (many of whom are minority) stuck in a lawless hellhole and we can't just abandon them.

The mob historically responds only to force and, as a rule, their courage melts at the first sign of serious force.

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I agree, and it wouldn't take much force to end the situation. I keep hearing that the Feds are making arrests, but, they never say what happens to the people they arrest. I can only assume that the people arrested are almost immediately released. If not, where are they being held?

[Aloha1]

This is insurrection against the Government of the U.S., period. Acts of insurrection allow the deployment of the military to arrest or otherwise neutralize the insurrectionists and restore order. Give a warning and then act.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by davem4616

setting a curfew would seem to be a pretty academic move

these thugs aren't protesting anything...this is pure anarchy...it's a mob

maybe it's time to bring out the water cannons...I think I read that they did that in Japan recently

I’ve been saying all along to bring the water cannons out; that strategy will change the rioters thinking.

[anothersteve]

Any and all solutions to stop or quell are very scary. Personally I think the world is too far gone to be able to get back to "normal"

Steve

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Any and all solutions to stop or quell are very scary. Personally I think the world is too far gone to be able to get back to "normal"

Steve

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yep - and without unequivocal and rational and effective (plus unbridled by local politicians...) law enforcement ability to keep the peace IS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. It is unthinkable that anything of substance will change in the next few months.

A HUGELY sorry state of affairs for our poor country. Wonder what the rest of the world thinks of this?
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