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Number 10 GI 06-24-2023 12:38 PM

As sure as the sun will come up tomorrow morning, had the authorities in charge said we are going to change from from a search and rescue effort to a search and recovery action, the internet would have been alive with people saying they were too cheap to save those poor men. They would claim the explosion the Navy reported could have been a flatulent whale.

retiredguy123 06-24-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2229294)
As sure as the sun will come up tomorrow morning, had the authorities in charge said we are going to change from from a search and rescue effort to a search and recovery action, the internet would have been alive with people saying they were too cheap to save those poor men. They would claim the explosion the Navy reported could have been a flatulent whale.

Maybe, but so what? The Government's job is to spend taxpayer money wisely and to not waste it.

xcaligirl 06-24-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2227935)
Question: Who will pay for the U.S. Coast Guard search and rescue mission of a non-US vessel that charges weathly tourists $250K each to visit the Titanic?

Answer: U.S. taxpayers

Eactly what I said to my husband at the beginning of the search

CoachKandSportsguy 06-24-2023 08:29 PM

The founder of the Oceangate is a bit of a renegade, not listening to experts and just another arrogant showman . . . Stockton Rush


fastcompany.com

Missing Titanic sub: experts raised safety concerns about OceanGate Titan in 2018 | Reuters

North Vancouver experts warned about experimental sub danger - North Shore News

Submersible Expert Raised Safety Concerns After 2019 Trip on Titan Sub - The New York Times
"During a trip on board the Titan off the coast of the Bahamas in April 2019, Karl Stanley, an expert in submersibles, knew immediately that something was off: He heard a cracking noise that got only louder over the two hours it took for the submersible to plunge more than 12,000 feet."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/missin...d-sharon-hagle


sorry, after reading many public articles of his disregard for safety, there is no surprise that there were no plans for rescue in case anything went wrong. .

Taltarzac725 06-24-2023 08:35 PM

It will probably take a long time but the lawyers should make a lot of money on all this. I expect the litigation will involve numerous countries and a lot of very technical evidence.


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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2229388)
The founder of the Oceangate is a bit of a renegade, not listening to experts and just another arrogant showman . . . Stockton Rush


fastcompany.com

Missing Titanic sub: experts raised safety concerns about OceanGate Titan in 2018 | Reuters

North Vancouver experts warned about experimental sub danger - North Shore News

Submersible Expert Raised Safety Concerns After 2019 Trip on Titan Sub - The New York Times
"During a trip on board the Titan off the coast of the Bahamas in April 2019, Karl Stanley, an expert in submersibles, knew immediately that something was off: He heard a cracking noise that got only louder over the two hours it took for the submersible to plunge more than 12,000 feet."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/missin...d-sharon-hagle


sorry, after reading many public articles of his disregard for safety, there is no surprise that there were no plans for rescue in case anything went wrong. .


Bay Kid 06-25-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2229302)
Maybe, but so what? The Government's job is to spend taxpayer money wisely and to not waste it.

Hahaha that is funny.

JoMar 06-25-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2228586)
Your numbers are way off.

According to the CBO's projections, federal outlays total $6.2 trillion in 2023.

CBO's projection for budget deficit is $1.4 Trillion in 2023. Your outlay ($6.2T) is correct but is offset by revenues of $4.8T

JoMar 06-25-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2228780)
This thought process is why we are in the mess we are in. "A couple hundred million is pennies".... how does this thought process even happen? Feel free to pay those pennies for us then. There are countless cases where significantly less money could save the lives of people here in the U.S. But we cannot and do not throw "pennies" at all those situations.

In the scheme of things (the budget) it is pennies. As stated, it's also not additional costs.....all part of the approved budget. That's how the thought process happens, in government and business.

And my question still remains.....what is the alternative or the solution?

CoachKandSportsguy 06-25-2023 03:12 PM

What caused the Titan to implode? Right now, it'''s not even clear who will lead the investigation | AP News

The US Coast Guard may have jurisdiction for the investigation, and doesn't request reimbursement.
However, the blame part of the aftermath will take years, be confusing, and may not amount to anything as the question of jurisdiction and sea worthy safety regulations is also murky with multiple international entities.

Since he was more Musk than Cousteau, and as a former licensed and professional oil tanker captain with safety of cargo and crew the first priority, there are many more interesting topics to follow since this topic has devolved into the legal proceedings of a former hack.

Tvflguy 06-25-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2229302)
Maybe, but so what? The Government's job is to spend taxpayer money wisely and to not waste it.

When does that actually start??? Been waiting for years. It’s totally out of control.

We are partly at fault. We want “our stuff” and do not want to give in. But truly it’s on them all in D.C. Just look at the math. It’s scary.

Our poor kids…


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