We could all use the same restrooms. Oh, wait, we already can do that.

How about the same locker room and showers? What could go wrong there?

Political correctness is amusing at times.

I completely disagree with you, and there is NO clear definition of "sexual orientation".

But, let's put that aside, what happened to "freedom". Why is it is worth fighting for the right to choose if only those things a particular person agrees with are covered.

So what if someone chooses to change the physical sex? Where do people get the right to pile hate and scorn onto someone because of their choice?

I could say that someones free choice of which person they want to have as president has a lot more impact on my life than what sex a person decides they identify as. And yet, if I come on here and describe that choice of presidents as evil or sick or discussing, I can be banned, but there is NOTHING wrong with attacking a person for their sexual choice.

Disgusting hypocrisy.

I think I need a break for this form.

Why?

I have no problem with blokes cutting off their wedding tackle and calling themselves Karen or whatever.
But.
If I were a ladies Pro Golfer I would raise holy heck to get them banned from competing in womens events.
It is not fair competition however you dress the situation (or him) up!
JMHO.

You reap what you sow. If women protested this issue, then there would be a stop to it immediately. If they sit back and allow it, then they get treated just like they did before they won the right to vote.
I do not hate transgenders, gays, etc. I just do not condone it. I believe that what one is, they were born with, not able to change what GOD made them. What a person does in private (relationship) is their business and I just don't care. But, I do not believe that a male should be able to enter a restroom with a female child or adult. I do not believe in transgenders in sports unless the sport is classed as open gender, male and female. But, that is just my opinion. What entertainment does to entertain is up to them and if they start losing support, then I guess they will change. I don't have to watch a sport or any other type of entertainment if I disapprove of something. I do not watch football anymore because of the athletes kneeling during the National Anthem. That is my prerogative. And the interesting point is that now I no longer miss those sports.
Someone said it is not fair that a male is allowed to play in a sport that has been dedicated to females. It's been going on the other way also. Females have attempted to enter male sports such as football, etc. What is fair? I would have to say that it is not fair in public school that males can enter female sports. Developing girls should be able to compete on equal terms with other girls while they are developing in public school. Otherwise, I really don't care. Sports is just entertainment and if they want to add a new element to it, I guess they will see how the public accepts it or not.

"Freaks"? GE, aren't you a medical doctor?

My hat's off to you, Grumpy. Whatever happened to the political philosophy that's so prevalent in the Villages - to live and let live, and be free to be yourself without interference?

If you consider the history of road races, gender, followed by age, has been the standard for classifications. Initially, there were males only races (e.g. Boston Marathon back when) until women rightfully protested and broke through. However they quickly realized they couldn't compete on an equal standing with men so a female classification was created. Sound fair?

With few exceptions, such as charity fund raisers, you must first quality in a previous marathon, within a certain time period, before being accepted into Boston. However, qualifying times for women were lower than for men in the same age group. They didn't have to run as fast to quality. Sound fair?

In my experience there were only a very few 'male only' races. This has completely changed as women could eventually get accepted but on different terms. For example there were races where you had to consume food and beverages at certain checkpoints without throwing up and being disqualified. Dead serious. Women couldn't consume as much as men so they had other limitations. Sound fair?

However, no male dare enter women's only races. That was their bastion only. It was ok for women to enter men's races, with considerations, but not men into women's. Sound fair?

My point being that women are going to find a way to protect their standing against any 'unfairness' and work to gain any handicap over those deemed physically superior. They are legion in this cause. Especially if there are records to be set, trophy and prize money to be won and scholarships at stake.

They will rise against any person they feel has an advantage. There will be some kind of handicap adopted to ensure they can compete on an even field against any class of individual.

Well it's good to know where you stand. You do realize that there may be transgenders in the Villages or elsewhere reading this? And that doesn't matter?

It was a lie from the get-go. The actual rule is "live and let live, as long as you live in a way that fits my misguided, myopic, and totally warped sense of reality."

That has been the rule here, it is still the rule here, and unless more people like you, me, Grumpy, and yes even justjim work to change it, it'll continue to be the rule.

There are transgenders living right here in the Villages, who might have read these posts and seen that members of THEIR community are referring to them as "freaks." A doctor, no less. "America's Friendliest Hometown" is a lie.

Oh my heavens. I'm in agreement with OrangeBlossomBaby...

Does this apply universally?

I need to go and lie down...

Freak: "a thing, person, animal, or event that is extremely unusual or unlikely, and not like any other of its type.."

Did he not use the term appropriately? Probably not very complimentary, but.........

When you've gone thru puberty as a male, you've already developed differently than a female.

Bigger, stronger bones and joints, different biomechanics...

That does not change once you've gone thru reassignment surgery. You will forever have that physical advantage.

The golfer being discussed was a competitive male golfer on his college golf team...

His/her (before or after reassignment surgery, lest anyone think I'm using the wrong pronoun) biomechanics will let him/her swing faster, thus hitting the ball farther... Simple kinesiology... You know... Science...

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Whoa. Put your broad brush down. AND Who is misguided, myopic and has a totally warped sense of reality???

People are allowed to say what they think here in The Villages and in this country even if we STRONGLY disagree with it. Or strongly stand with it.

My take is that most people who live in The Villages are old enough and wise enough to accept people and like them or not like them for who they are and not be influenced by their sexual orientation.

Being gay is not a decision. It is something that people are born with, just like Autism and genius and cognitive deficits and artistic ability and eye hand coordination and athletic build and color blindness and being physically attractive or not physically attractive or tall or short, blue or brown eyed, bald or not. Some things make it easier to live in this world and some make it harder. People may have a "gut" reaction to you that takes effort to control. Some try and some do not.