Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976596)

Well that was fun!

Followed the link to a page dedicated to "Shining the Light of Truth into the Darkness of Deceit." Learned that "Luciferean" was a word when it was used on that page to describe Freemasons, Fauci, and "Jews." I don't think I'll be visiting that page again.

Did a quick google search on the case number at the top of the declaration. That exact case number appears on cases filed 5/19/21, 6/10/21, and 7/19/21. Now possibly the 7/19 filing was more information pertaining to the original 5/19 case. I found it notable that America's Frontline Doctors is the first plaintiff in the case and the very first footnote in the case is, in my paraphrasing, "this is not a vaccine."

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1976603)

How do you know?Of all the dems flying who got the virus, all were vaccinated. Just sayin…

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1976722)

Are all the town squares still full of maskless dancing and drinking Villagers every night? Good luck.

Originally Posted by Alana33 (Post 1976632)

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1976442)

Tampa is having a triple problem with bronchitis, Covid and red tide associated respiratory issues.

Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1976645)

MichaelLinda, your statement “this is a game being played with statistics” is not true.

Apparently no matter how any of the information is presented there is a group of anti-VAX folks that find fault with everything that’s reported.

Let’s get to the bottom line, COVID-19 is on the rise due to the variant and the millions with in the population that have refused, are afraid of, just don’t care about getting a vaccine. That’s the bottom line.

QUOTE=Michaellinda;1976459]What is the death rate? What is the hospitalization rate? Reporting only on new cases per 100,000 people is a game being played with statistics.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 1976672)

The ONLY reason Florida is as high as it is can be contributed to the 74% vaccination rate of Sumter county and the 60% rate in Dade county. Numerous counties in the rest of the state have a rates in the low 20%, and a lot of them are in close proximity to Sumter. Thats where the virus is now running rampant.

Originally Posted by Michaellinda (Post 1976459)

What is the death rate? What is the hospitalization rate? Reporting only on new cases per 100,000 people is a game being played with statistics.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976675)

Let's say the survival rate is 99%, that's "well over 90%," right? At a survival rate of of 99% if the virus is left unchecked you could anticipate ONLY 3,300,000 deaths (about five times what we have right now).

Are 3,300,000 dead Americans acceptable to you?

Originally Posted by bp243 (Post 1976676)

Would like to think that 90% is possible!

Originally Posted by NewRealms (Post 1976737)

Could you site your source?

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1976761)

I read a few minutes ago that AdventHealth Orlando and it’s many satellite hospitals have, at present, if I recall correctly, about 760 beds occupied by COVID patients. NOW! Not last fall.

I’m scheduled for a weeklong Bluegrass Cruise in January. I only booked because vaccinations were required. If the governor bans requiring vaccinations for cruises, I will definitely cancel. No way I would go on a cruise with unvaccinated people and sit in crowded little rooms playing music.

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1976481)

The media needs to stir the pot to keep the pressure off what our leaders are doing.

Originally Posted by Mac1996 (Post 1976491)

What about all the illegals coming in that the government is flying all over this great country.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976782)

Nationwide hospitalizations are up 3 times recently due to the Delta variant. And deaths are up 2 times in recent weeks. That is for a week-to-week comparison.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1976546)

They've already explained this. I'll explain it in terms I know, as someone who isn't a scientist or medical practitioner:

If you are vaccinated, it means your risk of getting SICK if the virus is passed to you, has been minimized. The virus can still pass to you, but you would not be "infected."

Sort of like it someone passes you a plate of steak. You now have the steak. But if you don't eat the stake, you still have possession of it, without it being absorbed into your system. You can then pass that steak along to someone else.

The difference between the virus and the steak, is that YOU don't get to decide whether or not you consume the steak. Your stomach decides. If your stomach wants the steak, it forces you to eat it, and then you have the steak in your stomach.

The virus works the same way. You can't just say "Okay - I'm vaccinated now, I choose not to get the virus." The virus can still come TO you - and your immune system says, "not today, Satan" and pushes the virus along to someone else. Or the immune system might say "I have a headache, I can't be bothered today" and the virus enters your system even though you are vaccinated. HOWEVER as soon as that happens, the rest of your body is stronger than ever because of that vaccine, and the vaccine never gets a chance to cause any damage. It will find "nothing of interest" and pass out of your system.

What's going on, in a less metaphorical sense is this:

The CDC knows that some people who are vaccinated will have that virus transmitted to them, which would result in a positive test. But that test no longer really means anything, unless that vaccinated person actually gets sick. THAT is when it needs to matter. Of all the people who have been vaccinated, how many have gotten SICK from the virus?

So it isn't counting people who test positive, because it's no longer relevant.

The only people for whom a positive test matters, is people who are NOT vaccinated.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1976566)

I wish people would realize that unless we cut down on transmission of this virus, a more virulent mutation may develop that the vaccines will be less effective against. measles still exists but until the anti-vaxxers started up, it was virtually non-existent because so many people were vaccinated against it, the virus died for lack of hosts....same with small pox, chicken pox, etc. so as long as people say they don't have to take the shot, there are available hosts for the disease. maybe the next mutation will affect children more than currently. people worried about long term effects of the vaccine should be worried about long term effects of the virus. some researchers are looking at the possibility that the virus will increase risk of dementia and alzheimers and other neurological disorders. it's got to be of concern when the Daily Sun again runs an article on the virus in the paper today about the increase in cases. I have a question. Are all you who aren't getting vaccinated wearing masks? somehow I doubt it.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976810)

That was a great explanation and clarification. I wish something like that made it to our "newspaper".

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976830)

Good post. I have seen reports of neurological CV problems with the development of young children's brains. If more reports of this come out before September or any back-to-school date - all h*ll could break out from parent's protests. It could game change US society like the stock market today and much into the future. I hope that these reports are NOT true or that it would affect only a tiny % of children! Stay tuned.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1976722)

We live near The Villages Regional Hospital. A good indicator of whether the hospital ER and ICU are full is when the ambulances with sirens and the helicopters stop coming to the hospital. Even though TVRH is a trauma center, when they’re full, they advise the EMS services to go elsewhere. That’s what seems to have happened.

It’s been quiet now for several days, like it was during the peak of COVID infections several months ago. With Florida accounting for 20% of all the new cases in the entire U.S., it’s pretty easy to understand why the hospital might not be accepting any new patients.

Are all the town squares still full of maskless dancing and drinking Villagers every night? Good luck.

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1976752)

...so why are our leaders leaving the southern border open to C-19 infected immigrants? Then shipping them off to many parts of FL? The northern border is still closed.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976844)

Good post! Thank you for that information.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1976784)

You're assuming that 330 Million people will contract the disease...

Bad assumption...

It's 99% of those who contract the disease, not 99% of EVERYBODY...

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976865)

If the virus is left unchecked, a condition stated in my post, what, other than the vaccine, will prevent EVERYBODY from eventually contracting the virus?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976851)

If true, I then agree with you.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976865)

If the virus is left unchecked, a condition stated in my post, what, other than the vaccine, will prevent EVERYBODY from eventually contracting the virus?

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1976904)

Because apparently not everyone will get the virus, even if they are exposed. The perfect petri dishes were some of the cruise ships with covid outbreaks soon after the spread began. They didn’t know what they were dealing with. Passengers and crew members were in very close proximity. Yet only slightly more than 20% of the passengers and an even lower percentage of crew members were infected.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976922)

Well that's incredible good news! We should be celebrating!

The 3,300,000 deaths were based on a population of 330,000,000. But, since we "know" only a handful of children will die from COVID, the real population that might be affected is 300,000,000. If only slightly more than 20% of that population will ever get Covid then instead of 3,300,000 deaths there will only be slightly more than 600,000.

Since we're already at 609,000 deaths then by your calculation, there will be no more COVID deaths. Now that's something to celebrate!

(Now if only the annoying MSM and CDC and others would stop reporting a 7-day average of 300 deaths per day)

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1976482)

Death is not a game but politics is. It's a game that some play for keeps in the risk you, the risk me, and the lie about diseases and viruses to maintain power. There is a whistleblower right now for the CDC that is signing under The penalty of perjury that the CDC is hiding the thousands and thousands of deaths that vaccines are causing to the tune of about six to eight times what they're reporting.

Originally Posted by Michaellinda (Post 1976459)

What is the death rate? What is the hospitalization rate? Reporting only on new cases per 100,000 people is a game being played with statistics.

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1976494)

Why doesn't the world want to know how this virus really started? A bat, or a bat in a lab? Who is behind this and the reason?

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1976752)

...so why are our leaders leaving the southern border open to C-19 infected immigrants? Then shipping them off to many parts of FL? The northern border is still closed.

Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 1976510)

Oddly enough reports from the UK and Israel state that 40% of COVID hospitalizations are folks who have been fully vaccinated. Of course, our CDC doesn't agree because they stopped counting hospitalizations of vaccinated patients. Doesn't support their narrative, is my guess.

Originally Posted by NewRealms (Post 1976737)

Could you site your source?