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drducat 07-22-2021 07:00 PM

Looks like the Media has everyone up in arms again today....Has a lot to do with the fact that fauci will be brought up on charges for false testimony to Congress which is gearing up to be crimes against humanity...not looking good for the old boy.

Aloha1 07-22-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976782)
Nationwide hospitalizations are up 3 times recently due to the Delta variant. And deaths are up 2 times in recent weeks. That is for a week-to-week comparison.

3 times what previous number? 3 times 20 does not compare to 3 times 200. Same with deaths. Everybody likes to quote what's happening in Israel where the numbers "Skyrocketed" 300% - from 20 to 60 in the whole country.

Aloha1 07-22-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976851)
If true, I then agree with you.

If true??? Here's an idea, do some research.

JMintzer 07-22-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976967)
ANY reliable source that says the vaccine is killing anyone, much less "left and right?"

And don't give VAERS stats because as we all know, correlation does not prove causation.

Your sarcasm detector is broken...

Bill14564 07-22-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1976985)
Your sarcasm detector is broken...

You're right. Post removed.

bp243 07-22-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 1976690)
Who said anything about chicken pox?

That’s an analogy. If you don’t care about the origin of the chicken pox, why would you care about the origin of any other issue that has affected all of us?

Swoop 07-22-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976922)
Well that's incredible good news! We should be celebrating!

The 3,300,000 deaths were based on a population of 330,000,000. But, since we "know" only a handful of children will die from COVID, the real population that might be affected is 300,000,000. If only slightly more than 20% of that population will ever get Covid then instead of 3,300,000 deaths there will only be slightly more than 600,000.

Since we're already at 609,000 deaths then by your calculation, there will be no more COVID deaths. Now that's something to celebrate!

(Now if only the annoying MSM and CDC and others would stop reporting a 7-day average of 300 deaths per day)

There have been 34,249,031cases is Covid in the US. Basically 10% of the population. So, statistically the death total could double from its current number, if the 20% figure holds true.
Not 3,300,000, not 600,000…
Better check your math!!!!

bp243 07-22-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1976785)
I would like to think I'll win the Lottery... I suspect neither will happen...

Are you buying a lottery ticket or just playing with words? Thank you for the your honesty!

Bill14564 07-22-2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1977007)
There have been 34,249,031cases is Covid in the US. Basically 10% of the population. So, statistically the death total could double from its current number, if the 20% figure holds true.
Not 3,300,000, not 600,000…
Better check your math!!!!

But if we use those numbers then we have to accept a death rate of 1.8% (survival rate of 98.2% which I suppose is still "well over 90%")

But more, if we consider that 0-17 year olds account for 30% of the cases but only 350 deaths then that means that 608,000 deaths came from 24M cases for a survival rate of only 97.5% for the rest of us.

If we take the US population at 330M, the CDC percentage of Americans under 18 at 22%, your 20% infection rate, the 34M that have already been infected, the current vaccine acceptance of approximately 60%, and the 2.5% death rate then we would expect about another 175,000 deaths (784,000 overall). So yes, the 3.3M number was far too high and the 600,000 number was too low.

Then back to the post I originally commented on, is it fear mongering to be concerned about the potential for only another 175,000 deaths?

Bay Kid 07-23-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1976982)
Looks like the Media has everyone up in arms again today....Has a lot to do with the fact that fauci will be brought up on charges for false testimony to Congress which is gearing up to be crimes against humanity...not looking good for the old boy.

That would be great but fauci is a protected class. It seems the world would want to know how/why this virus was created, released and who is behind this. Who to believe, who to trust?

Pballer 07-23-2021 08:40 AM

We baby boomers are very fortunate that when the polio vaccine came out in the 1950s, most of our parents didn't display the type of foolishness that a third of the adult population seems to display today.

KAM+6 07-23-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1976982)
Looks like the Media has everyone up in arms again today....Has a lot to do with the fact that fauci will be brought up on charges for false testimony to Congress which is gearing up to be crimes against humanity...not looking good for the old boy.

No, it is NOT a "FACT". It is a statement from an ignorant person. There was no "false testimony to Congress". Your media is the one that is false.

jimjamuser 07-23-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1977145)
That would be great but fauci is a protected class. It seems the world would want to know how/why this virus was created, released and who is behind this. Who to believe, who to trust?

Yes, Dr. Fauci (notice the proper title and capitalized name for respect) is in a protected class. He is in a class of Saints for his 40 years of hazardous work with diseases, which he studied for the benefit of mankind. Socrates said, "mind and body". Dr. Fauci as a modern American achieved that goal - he was brilliant in College AND a superb athlete. How many here locally that feel free to criticize him have those credentials? And of those, how many have given 40 years of their life to science, mankind, government service? Think about it objectively. Dr. Fauci's critics are really only saying that he is BAD because he did not fall in line and march with the 35% of the US population - those that have been propagandized into a lemming-like trance and following a cult ideology. I feel sorry for this 35%. They "know not what they do"!

Eventually Abraham Lincoln will catch up with them - "you can't fool 35% of the people ALL of the time". Cults come and they go. Soon this one will disappear from history. Legitimate sources of information like the CDC, DR. Fauci, and traditional network TV channels can help those now stricken with overloads of propaganda to see past the cult panderers that are driven by power and money. We live in a confusing and rapidly changing time period. Florida leaders have gone against the 35% to agree with the CDC and recommend vaccines for almost ALL Floridians. The Abraham Lincoln effect is beginning to take hold.

capecoralbill 07-23-2021 12:09 PM

DeSantis, can we make it alive until The 2022 Florida gubernatorial election on November 8, 2022.

JMintzer 07-23-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 1977311)
No, it is NOT a "FACT". It is a statement from an ignorant person. There was no "false testimony to Congress". Your media is the one that is false.

No, there will be a determination about whether or not he made false charges...

Your comment is just as ignorant as the one you're complaining about...

JMintzer 07-23-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1977364)
Yes, Dr. Fauci (notice the proper title and capitalized name for respect) is in a protected class. He is in a class of Saints for his 40 years of hazardous work with diseases, which he studied for the benefit of mankind. Socrates said, "mind and body". Dr. Fauci as a modern American achieved that goal - he was brilliant in College AND a superb athlete. How many here locally that feel free to criticize him have those credentials? And of those, how many have given 40 years of their life to science, mankind, government service? Think about it objectively. Dr. Fauci's critics are really only saying that he is BAD because he did not fall in line and march with the 35% of the US population - those that have been propagandized into a lemming-like trance and following a cult ideology. I feel sorry for this 35%. They "know not what they do"!

Eventually Abraham Lincoln will catch up with them - "you can't fool 35% of the people ALL of the time". Cults come and they go. Soon this one will disappear from history. Legitimate sources of information like the CDC, DR. Fauci, and traditional network TV channels can help those now stricken with overloads of propaganda to see past the cult panderers that are driven by power and money. We live in a confusing and rapidly changing time period. Florida leaders have gone against the 35% to agree with the CDC and recommend vaccines for almost ALL Floridians. The Abraham Lincoln effect is beginning to take hold.

Your worship aside, Fauci has not been involved in actual research for decades...

His initial work with AIDS was brilliant, but then, he became a bureaucrat, which he has been for the last 30 years...

My problem with him is his initial lie that masks were not effective, and his earlier (under the radar) resumption of Gain of Function studies that Obama had stopped...

Maybe if you were not so "cult like" in your adoration, you could see things more clearly...

JMintzer 07-23-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 1977396)
Thank you Jim, very well said. Dr Fauci deserves our utmost respect.

"Deserved"... He's lost the respect of many...

drducat 07-23-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 1977311)
No, it is NOT a "FACT". It is a statement from an ignorant person. There was no "false testimony to Congress". Your media is the one that is false.

Not media it is congress and I watch nothing media related.

drducat 07-23-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 1977396)
Thank you Jim, very well said. Dr Fauci deserves our utmost respect.

He needs to be on trial first...

drducat 07-23-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1977364)
Yes, Dr. Fauci (notice the proper title and capitalized name for respect) is in a protected class. He is in a class of Saints for his 40 years of hazardous work with diseases, which he studied for the benefit of mankind. Socrates said, "mind and body". Dr. Fauci as a modern American achieved that goal - he was brilliant in College AND a superb athlete. How many here locally that feel free to criticize him have those credentials? And of those, how many have given 40 years of their life to science, mankind, government service? Think about it objectively. Dr. Fauci's critics are really only saying that he is BAD because he did not fall in line and march with the 35% of the US population - those that have been propagandized into a lemming-like trance and following a cult ideology. I feel sorry for this 35%. They "know not what they do"!

Eventually Abraham Lincoln will catch up with them - "you can't fool 35% of the people ALL of the time". Cults come and they go. Soon this one will disappear from history. Legitimate sources of information like the CDC, DR. Fauci, and traditional network TV channels can help those now stricken with overloads of propaganda to see past the cult panderers that are driven by power and money. We live in a confusing and rapidly changing time period. Florida leaders have gone against the 35% to agree with the CDC and recommend vaccines for almost ALL Floridians. The Abraham Lincoln effect is beginning to take hold.

Fauci has done nothing but talk for the last 20 years....you will figure it out soon enough.

Topspinmo 07-23-2021 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 1976317)
If you read the original news article from Yahoo it's more clear that the "Hilton" person referred to in the first paragraph above is not representing The White House or the CDC. I don't think the CDC or the administration are suggesting people not travel
to Florida.

If we’re going to talk about traveling then need to know how many people travel in Florida daily bringing virus in?

Aloha1 07-23-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1977364)
Yes, Dr. Fauci (notice the proper title and capitalized name for respect) is in a protected class. He is in a class of Saints for his 40 years of hazardous work with diseases, which he studied for the benefit of mankind. Socrates said, "mind and body". Dr. Fauci as a modern American achieved that goal - he was brilliant in College AND a superb athlete. How many here locally that feel free to criticize him have those credentials? And of those, how many have given 40 years of their life to science, mankind, government service? Think about it objectively. Dr. Fauci's critics are really only saying that he is BAD because he did not fall in line and march with the 35% of the US population - those that have been propagandized into a lemming-like trance and following a cult ideology. I feel sorry for this 35%. They "know not what they do"!

Eventually Abraham Lincoln will catch up with them - "you can't fool 35% of the people ALL of the time". Cults come and they go. Soon this one will disappear from history. Legitimate sources of information like the CDC, DR. Fauci, and traditional network TV channels can help those now stricken with overloads of propaganda to see past the cult panderers that are driven by power and money. We live in a confusing and rapidly changing time period. Florida leaders have gone against the 35% to agree with the CDC and recommend vaccines for almost ALL Floridians. The Abraham Lincoln effect is beginning to take hold.

etc, etc, etc. Please stop with the misinformation.It's getting old.

Aloha1 07-23-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by capecoralbill (Post 1977381)
DeSantis, can we make it alive until The 2022 Florida gubernatorial election on November 8, 2022.

No politics.

drducat 07-23-2021 04:59 PM

We are going to see a lot more of this......

‘Vast majority’ of Covid-19 cluster in Cape Cod were vaccinated

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-23-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1977522)
We are going to see a lot more of this......

‘Vast majority’ of Covid-19 cluster in Cape Cod were vaccinated

In the ABC version of this, we see this reminder:

"Morse reported most individuals are experiencing "mild symptoms." According to medical experts, fully vaccinated individuals are far less likely to become severely ill, and hospitalized, if infected with COVID-19."

That's the beauty of the COVID vaccines (and actually the flu vaccine as well): it's possible to become infected, however the symptoms are milder than they would be if you weren't vaccinated at all. Imagine how sick some of these vaccinated people would have been, if they caught the virus and were NOT vaccinated.

It's really more reason to vaccinate.

John41 07-23-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1976982)
Looks like the Media has everyone up in arms again today....Has a lot to do with the fact that fauci will be brought up on charges for false testimony to Congress which is gearing up to be crimes against humanity...not looking good for the old boy.

Fauci is responsible for funding the gain of function research that led to Covid 19 and the resulting pandemic. And it was done in a sneaky way to violate a ban that was in place at the time. Even the Washington Post admitted this.

Swoop 07-23-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1977570)
In the ABC version of this, we see this reminder:

"Morse reported most individuals are experiencing "mild symptoms." According to medical experts, fully vaccinated individuals are far less likely to become severely ill, and hospitalized, if infected with COVID-19."

That's the beauty of the COVID vaccines (and actually the flu vaccine as well): it's possible to become infected, however the symptoms are milder than they would be if you weren't vaccinated at all. Imagine how sick some of these vaccinated people would have been, if they caught the virus and were NOT vaccinated.

It's really more reason to vaccinate.

Look at how quickly the narrative moved from - if you’re vaccinated you can’t get Covid, unless you’re in the 5% - to; well you can still get Covid, but it just won’t be as bad…

Bay Kid 07-24-2021 06:27 AM

Just curious, where did this virus start? God didn't create this virus. Where and why and who? With all the deaths worldwide this should be a number one investigation.

coffeebean 07-26-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1976451)
I read that Sumter County is averaging 19 cases per day, the number of cases is on the rise, and the county is high risk for unvaccinated people. And there are people who have been vaccinated who have had break through infection, and although I personally know some who are very sick, they are not in the hospital. Even though we in the community are probably (and I'm guessing here) maybe 80% vaccinated, people are visiting family or have grandkids who are not vaccinated, which could fuel the spread. Even though vaccinated, I wear a mask in some public settings like the grocery store, to protect other whose immunity may be compromised (cancer treatments for example) who have been unable to be vaccinated or the vaccination may not be as effective for them. And to help control the spread of variants and mutations.

You are a better person than I am because I'll be damned if I wear a mask to protect people who refuse to protect themselves. As for those who are immune compromised and or are not able to get the vaccine, sorry, but they will just have to do what it takes to protect themselves such as wear an N95 mask when out in public. Don't count on me to do the protecting any more.

Variants? Vaccinated don't spread the virus like the un-vaccinated so I'm not worried that I'm responsible for any variants.

coffeebean 07-26-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1976482)
Death is not a game but politics is. It's a game that some play for keeps in the risk you, the risk me, and the lie about diseases and viruses to maintain power. There is a whistleblower right now for the CDC that is signing under The penalty of perjury that the CDC is hiding the thousands and thousands of deaths that vaccines are causing to the tune of about six to eight times what they're reporting.

Conspiracy theory much?

stanley 07-26-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1978853)
Conspiracy theory much?

Prove it wrong

coffeebean 07-26-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bmit16 (Post 1976532)
Has anyone else noticed that the CDC is no longer reporting how many people that have been vaccinated are being infected. They are only reporting vaccinated hospitalizations and deaths. Could it be that goes against their agenda to get people vaccinated? Follow the money folks. Somebody is making a lot of money when vaccines are given. They still refuse to talk about the over 35 million people who have had covid and as a result have the best immunities and the lowest by far rate of reinfection.

Really? How many vaccinated people have had Covid and then had a reinfection? I haven't heard of any other than maybe that golfer but then that is even suspect.

stanley 07-26-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1978857)
Really? How many vaccinated people have had Covid and then had a reinfection? I haven't heard of any other than maybe that golfer but then that is even suspect.

There's the conundrum.......you won't with your mindset

coffeebean 07-26-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life (Post 1976579)
Sell the fear baby that’s what you’re good at! That’s .005% does CNN pay your people directly or you do you do this fear selling for pro bono.

Feel better now?

coffeebean 07-26-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1976608)
How about the idea of a mandate that requires everyone to mask up again.......to protect those who are not vaccinated?

COMING SOON!

Bite your tongue!

coffeebean 07-26-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1976614)
I'll do it to protect my sister, who is unable to be vaccinated. Anyone who is able but chooses not to vaccinate, stay home, or wear a mask and social distance.

That's what you told all of us people who believed in science when we all started telling YOU to wear masks. You told us to stay home so we can't infect anyone with the hoax virus, and you were going to go and live your lives however you wanted.

Well the tables have turned. It's your turn now. Stay home, or get sick. Your choice. I'm going to live my life how I see fit. I'm vaccinated.

This 1000 times.

stanley 07-26-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1978860)
Bite your tongue!

More "conspiracy".... right,?

Bill14564 07-26-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978855)
Prove it wrong

Brandon's law

stanley 07-26-2021 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1978864)
Brandon's law

Yeah...so?

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1977588)
Look at how quickly the narrative moved from - if you’re vaccinated you can’t get Covid, unless you’re in the 5% - to; well you can still get Covid, but it just won’t be as bad…

You said it yourself...bolded and underlined for emphasis.

Do you not believe your own words? I don't know where you got that 5% from but let's run with it, since you're the one who stated it.

If you are in that 5% who gets Covid after being vaccinated, then - you can "still get Covid, but it just won't be as bad."

I'm not sure how that's a bad thing. Sounds like a vaccine that's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. Reduce risk, and if you are unfortunate enough to beat the odds and get sick anyway, it reduces the severity.


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