Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976675)

Let's say the survival rate is 99%, that's "well over 90%," right? At a survival rate of of 99% if the virus is left unchecked you could anticipate ONLY 3,300,000 deaths (about five times what we have right now).

Are 3,300,000 dead Americans acceptable to you?

Originally Posted by bp243 (Post 1976676)

Would like to think that 90% is possible!

Originally Posted by NewRealms (Post 1976737)

Could you site your source?

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1976761)

I read a few minutes ago that AdventHealth Orlando and it’s many satellite hospitals have, at present, if I recall correctly, about 760 beds occupied by COVID patients. NOW! Not last fall.

I’m scheduled for a weeklong Bluegrass Cruise in January. I only booked because vaccinations were required. If the governor bans requiring vaccinations for cruises, I will definitely cancel. No way I would go on a cruise with unvaccinated people and sit in crowded little rooms playing music.

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1976481)

The media needs to stir the pot to keep the pressure off what our leaders are doing.

Originally Posted by Mac1996 (Post 1976491)

What about all the illegals coming in that the government is flying all over this great country.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976782)

Nationwide hospitalizations are up 3 times recently due to the Delta variant. And deaths are up 2 times in recent weeks. That is for a week-to-week comparison.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1976546)

They've already explained this. I'll explain it in terms I know, as someone who isn't a scientist or medical practitioner:

If you are vaccinated, it means your risk of getting SICK if the virus is passed to you, has been minimized. The virus can still pass to you, but you would not be "infected."

Sort of like it someone passes you a plate of steak. You now have the steak. But if you don't eat the stake, you still have possession of it, without it being absorbed into your system. You can then pass that steak along to someone else.

The difference between the virus and the steak, is that YOU don't get to decide whether or not you consume the steak. Your stomach decides. If your stomach wants the steak, it forces you to eat it, and then you have the steak in your stomach.

The virus works the same way. You can't just say "Okay - I'm vaccinated now, I choose not to get the virus." The virus can still come TO you - and your immune system says, "not today, Satan" and pushes the virus along to someone else. Or the immune system might say "I have a headache, I can't be bothered today" and the virus enters your system even though you are vaccinated. HOWEVER as soon as that happens, the rest of your body is stronger than ever because of that vaccine, and the vaccine never gets a chance to cause any damage. It will find "nothing of interest" and pass out of your system.

What's going on, in a less metaphorical sense is this:

The CDC knows that some people who are vaccinated will have that virus transmitted to them, which would result in a positive test. But that test no longer really means anything, unless that vaccinated person actually gets sick. THAT is when it needs to matter. Of all the people who have been vaccinated, how many have gotten SICK from the virus?

So it isn't counting people who test positive, because it's no longer relevant.

The only people for whom a positive test matters, is people who are NOT vaccinated.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1976566)

I wish people would realize that unless we cut down on transmission of this virus, a more virulent mutation may develop that the vaccines will be less effective against. measles still exists but until the anti-vaxxers started up, it was virtually non-existent because so many people were vaccinated against it, the virus died for lack of hosts....same with small pox, chicken pox, etc. so as long as people say they don't have to take the shot, there are available hosts for the disease. maybe the next mutation will affect children more than currently. people worried about long term effects of the vaccine should be worried about long term effects of the virus. some researchers are looking at the possibility that the virus will increase risk of dementia and alzheimers and other neurological disorders. it's got to be of concern when the Daily Sun again runs an article on the virus in the paper today about the increase in cases. I have a question. Are all you who aren't getting vaccinated wearing masks? somehow I doubt it.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976810)

That was a great explanation and clarification. I wish something like that made it to our "newspaper".

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1976830)

Good post. I have seen reports of neurological CV problems with the development of young children's brains. If more reports of this come out before September or any back-to-school date - all h*ll could break out from parent's protests. It could game change US society like the stock market today and much into the future. I hope that these reports are NOT true or that it would affect only a tiny % of children! Stay tuned.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1976722)

We live near The Villages Regional Hospital. A good indicator of whether the hospital ER and ICU are full is when the ambulances with sirens and the helicopters stop coming to the hospital. Even though TVRH is a trauma center, when they’re full, they advise the EMS services to go elsewhere. That’s what seems to have happened.

It’s been quiet now for several days, like it was during the peak of COVID infections several months ago. With Florida accounting for 20% of all the new cases in the entire U.S., it’s pretty easy to understand why the hospital might not be accepting any new patients.

Are all the town squares still full of maskless dancing and drinking Villagers every night? Good luck.

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1976752)

...so why are our leaders leaving the southern border open to C-19 infected immigrants? Then shipping them off to many parts of FL? The northern border is still closed.