Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Current Events and News (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/)
-   -   Two thirds of some units of the US ARMY are refusing mRNA shot ... (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/two-thirds-some-units-us-army-refusing-mrna-shot-316634/)

coffeebean 02-23-2021 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1906469)
here is the latest update...500+ reported deaths..

Does this report include follow up investigation to see if the vaccine actually was directly responsible for the deaths? The article I just posted by the CDC states they always investigate deaths reported and request medical records to do their investigation. NO death was found to be a direct cause from the vaccines. That was my take away from the CDC article I posted.

EDIT: The above quoted comment does not include the graph you posted for some reason. I don't know why that happened.

jbrown132 02-23-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michread (Post 1906189)
Nope. Article says one third are AGREEING to get the shot...see today’s Daily Sun A 12

That leaves two thirds of some Army units who are NOT.

Who cares!! One third, two thirds. It’s plain and simple. If you want to get the vaccine get it if you don’t then don’t.

coffeebean 02-23-2021 07:37 AM

Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto, Oh, let's call the whole thing off!

elevatorman 02-23-2021 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1906493)
I don't know what to believe. I have seen a couple of posters claim there have been deaths from the mRNA vaccines. I have searched for that information but come up with nothing. Will you please post a link to information that states there have been deaths directly related to the mRNA vaccines. Thanks.

The deaths in Norway in the nursing home were people who were very old and frail and even a fever would have made them die. I don't consider those deaths to be directly related to the vaccines. From what I have read, people over 90 years old were not in trials and those nursing home patients should not have received the vaccines in the first place. This is an article about those deaths in Norway.........

Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination | The BMJ

I could not find the chart. This is from the CDC site. Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC All deaths after Vaccination must be reported to VAERS. The deaths are then investigated to determine if the vaccine caused the death. Go to the part that is headlined
Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

Neils 02-23-2021 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1906461)
So in other words if you carry a certain line of work, your not entitled to freedom of choice? Those are some really strong opinions, and as someone who works in healthcare, I’ll be damned if someone will tell me what I can do for my own life and health...

Your choice is your line of work. Do you think all steelworker want to wear the fall restraint harness all day? Or that warehouse people enjoy steel toed boots?

If your choice is to work in healthcare, then taking a vaccine that helps keep your patients safe seems reasonable.
If you choose not to be vaccinated, that is your choice and right. Just not to keep the same job.

merrymini 02-23-2021 07:47 AM

People who believe there are NO deaths from the vaccine usually are the people who believe EVERYBODY dies when they get the disease. When do we start believing liars like the cdc, who or the media?

Cobullymom 02-23-2021 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheapbas (Post 1906481)
Please provide the direct web link to this data. The information I get is there are NO direct links between the COVID shot and deaths. Only that there were deaths of people 77 and over who had received the vaccine, but it was not determined those deaths were due to the vaccine.

Look in the thread, I already did...I posted the CDC page...

Cobullymom 02-23-2021 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1906511)
Your choice is your line of work. Do you think all steelworker want to wear the fall restraint harness all day? Or that warehouse people enjoy steel toed boots?

If your choice is to work in healthcare, then taking a vaccine that helps keep your patients safe seems reasonable.
If you choose not to be vaccinated, that is your choice and right. Just not to keep the same job.

Worked through AIDS, HIV and many other diseases that was I not vaccinated for and they had a much higher risk of death and I took the risk, to take care of others....no one cared then! Again, how dare anybody tell me what I should do with my body....or my profession....and a fall restraint harness is proven, and has nothing absolutely nothing to do with taking a vaccine....what a ridiculous comparison...

Cobullymom 02-23-2021 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1906511)
Your choice is your line of work. Do you think all steelworker want to wear the fall restraint harness all day? Or that warehouse people enjoy steel toed boots?

If your choice is to work in healthcare, then taking a vaccine that helps keep your patients safe seems reasonable.
If you choose not to be vaccinated, that is your choice and right. Just not to keep the same job.

Or comparing steel toed boots...smdh

Cobullymom 02-23-2021 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1906504)
Does this report include follow up investigation to see if the vaccine actually was directly responsible for the deaths? The article I just posted by the CDC states they always investigate deaths reported and request medical records to do their investigation. NO death was found to be a direct cause from the vaccines. That was my take away from the CDC article I posted.

EDIT: The above quoted comment does not include the graph you posted for some reason. I don't know why that happened.

You take away whatever you want and I will take away with what I believe don’t impose your beliefs on me I’m simply showing you the CDC chart

44Apple 02-23-2021 08:07 AM

To anyone, don't want the Covid vaccine? Fine, just don't start whining when you find yourself on a ventilator.

Cheapbas 02-23-2021 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michread (Post 1906178)
- The Associated Press


They are smarter than we think they are! :ho:

doesn’t make COVID sense to me.

If we want to control the virus, we have to control the variants. If we want to control the variants, we need to manage it coming into the USA. If you’re in the army, I can’t see you leaving without that jab. Maybe the 1/3rd are staying home.

GeriS 02-23-2021 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1906180)
First line responders are doing the same. Those who choose to wait, have their personal reasons, and I respect that. But there are some posters that think 90% of the population is getting the vaccine. Welcome to the new military that gives you choices

Maybe they've done their research & know what's in it.

Tankerrich 02-23-2021 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 1906531)
To anyone, don't want the Covid vaccine? Fine, just don't start whining when you find yourself on a ventilator.

Perhaps we should close down the internet!

dhdallas 02-23-2021 08:23 AM

Thinking is not allowed in the military!
 
Actually one third of the military is refusing the vaccination. The military frowns on thinking for yourself so expect it to be mandatory soon.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...y-thinking.jpg


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.