Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Current Events and News (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/)
-   -   Two thirds of some units of the US ARMY are refusing mRNA shot ... (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/current-events-news-541/two-thirds-some-units-us-army-refusing-mrna-shot-316634/)

blueash 02-23-2021 09:15 AM

I'd like to add a comment on those attacking the OP for the statement

Two thirds of some units of the US ARMY are refusing mRNA shot

This is what happens if you don't post a link
The statement is true because is says "some units"

Thousands of service members saying no to Covid vaccine

Tmarkwald 02-23-2021 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 1906231)
I was in Afghanistan when COVID19 hit. I can tell you for certain that you will choose to get the shot to avoid the hassle of not having it.

You fly in to Kuwait and you are placed in two weeks of isolation at a minimum depending on flights out. That is 14 days behind chain link with no internet with little to nothing to do. Depending on time of the year it's 120. Sure you have AC in your barracks with 119 of your friends but the novelty is over in four minutes. The AC is not something that your would call comfort cool, that is for certain.

Vaccine = 1 - 3 days in that desert paradise. Believe me you will do damn near anything to avoid any extended stays at Ali Al Saleem or Camp Arifjan, Kuwait.

I don't trust the MSM to understand that the Base Commander is god in theater not some O-5 in the pentagon. S/he sets the rules. S/he says vaccine required, you get the vaccine, no discussion, no democracy.

Yep, that's reality in a nutshell. Since Damn near every Deployable location and country week probably require it, articles like this are Pulp Fiction and may even have a political spin.

Tmarkwald 02-23-2021 09:46 AM

I think 'refusing' is an inaccurate term in the military.

Plus, there's this scenario where you are given a choice of postings.. Hawaii or Montana in the winter. Vaccine gets you Hawaii.......

Just a thought.... because whenever you move around in the military there is a list of required vaccines. Pretty much sure covid will be on that list....

Johnsocat 02-23-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1906511)
Your choice is your line of work. Do you think all steelworker want to wear the fall restraint harness all day? Or that warehouse people enjoy steel toed boots?

If your choice is to work in healthcare, then taking a vaccine that helps keep your patients safe seems reasonable.
If you choose not to be vaccinated, that is your choice and right. Just not to keep the same job.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood the shot only protects you from getting I'll from the virus, but doesnt keep you from carrying it or giving it to others. I believe that is why they say to continue wearing mask and social distancing?
Therefore, unless you actively have the virus, anyone, in any profession should have no reason not to go to work, especially if those around them have had the shots, as they are protected.

graciegirl 02-23-2021 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michread (Post 1906178)
- The Associated Press


They are smarter than we think they are! :ho:

They are indeed disappointing if this is true.(??????)

Makes me wonder a lot of things. Times change.

The Vaccine is safe and if you are older can save your life. If you are younger getting it can save someone else's life.

Our military has always been the bravest and ready to put out every effort for the greater good.

MikeE72! 02-23-2021 10:26 AM

If you do not take the vaccine and get Covid, what is the percentage of survival?

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1906180)
First line responders are doing the same. Those who choose to wait, have their personal reasons, and I respect that. But there are some posters that think 90% of the population is getting the vaccine. Welcome to the new military that gives you choices

There is a good chance that if we do NOT get 80 to 85 % of the US population vaccinated, then CV will be with us FOREVER. And as shown by CV's propensity to mutate, with more victims/hosts to work with, then our FUTURE Plague will make our current problem - just a "walk in the park".

Swoop 02-23-2021 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeE72! (Post 1906647)
If you do not take the vaccine and get Covid, what is the percentage of survival?

Your age and your current state of health will impact your survival rate. But based on the overall numbers, the survival rate of those who get the virus is 99%.

jimjamuser 02-23-2021 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow (Post 1906184)

That sounds more like reality. Yet a 66% vaccination rate probably isn't good enough for the strong herd immunity that could eliminate the CV as a large problem. Dr. Fauci said that 80 to 85 % was needed. Hopefully, a lot of people just don't want to be the 1st to get the shot and will get it later after they see no terrible side effects. Then we may get a higher % vaccination rate.

stebooo 02-23-2021 11:10 AM

Opening sentence says 2/3 agreeing.

gzink 02-23-2021 12:04 PM

I think the reason they have a choice is that this is not formally FDA approved. Rather, the vaccines have Emergency Use Authorization. If/when vaccines get formal approval troops would no longer have a choice.

cherylncliff 02-23-2021 12:08 PM

About a third of those offered the vaccine have turned it down, according to Maj. Gen. Jeff Taliaferro, the Joint Staff’s vice director for operations.

graciegirl 02-23-2021 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1906461)
So in other words if you carry a certain line of work, your not entitled to freedom of choice? Those are some really strong opinions, and as someone who works in healthcare, I’ll be damned if someone will tell me what I can do for my own life and health...

If I were in the hospital lying there hoping to be safe and we were chatting late at night as some nice medical people do sometimes with people who can't sleep, and you told me you had elected not to get the vaccine, I would lose a great deal of faith in almost everything you do there in the hospital. Every medical person in my little world, and I literally have six nurse friends all named Karen, two named Sandee and six others with other monikers and we chat on Facebook and they are all planning to get the vaccine against Covid-19 or have done so...

Can you tell us if you have an anaphylactic response to something in the vaccine, or you wonder about long time after effects??? Or perhaps you are very young, in your twenties or thirties?

graciegirl 02-23-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1906552)
This COVID “vaccine” is not a vaccine, but rather gene therapy. People under 40 have almost a zero chance of dying from it, especially fit service people. I don’t blame them.

Why do you say it's "GENE THERAPY". Gene therapy is a valid treatment for some diseases. At University of Cincinnati, some years ago, they were able to alter a cell and have it "piggyback" on a cold virus into the lungs of a person with Cystic Fibrosis. It altered some lung cells in such a way to help the patient live longer.

I believe that this vaccine challenges the body's own defenses in the regular way and soon your macrophages, your soldiers, are lining up to attack it and in some cases making you sick doing it. I consider my bodies response to the second shot just that. I was tired, had headaches and ghost pains that "bit" me here and there. A very typical response to your body recognizing an invader and getting ready for it.

AOCMVA 02-23-2021 12:22 PM

Military Opting out of Covid vaccine
 
Because the Covid vaccine was not fully tested and has EMERGENCY APPROVAL ONLY, military personelli are not required to participate at this time. Once fully tested completely and fully approved (With no emergency approval) they will all be required to get the vaccine.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.