We used that strategy once-it was called the civil war. If we had another one, who do you think would love it? I believe that it would be Putin and China. China would then be the dominant country in the world. Not a good outcome. As a famous quote went, "Can't we ALL just get along".

[QUOTE=noslices1;1798630]Lot's of empathy there for the young children.

If you purchase a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer(to be a dealer in firearms your are required by federal law to have a federal license) you are required under federal law to undergo a background investigation. If it comes back denied the dealer cannot legally sell the gun to you. In many states and Florida is one of them, a face to face sale between a private citizens is legal without a background investigation. The majority of private sellers now ask to see identification and a license to carry a firearm before they will sell the firearm.
Numerous studies have shown that criminals get guns by theft, from a family member or through a straw purchaser. A straw purchaser is a person who can legally buy a gun that purchases one in their name and gives it to the criminal. Usually the criminal is prohibited from owning firearms due to previous felony convictions.

A good informative post.

To understand the gun debate, one has to change his paradigm. It was never about saving lives. Far more people are killed every year from medical malfeasance, automobile accidents and myriad other causes. Gun control is TOTALLY about CONTROL, nothing more. With no guns, i.e. no defense, Americans would be subject to the whims of their government and defenseless to resist tyranny, as so many of The Founders admonished. There are numerous examples (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, ad nauseum) of "death by government"; in fact, genocide is the leading cause of death among the world's populations. Our ruling elite are intimately aware of this situation and are working overtime to change this equation! Complicity among the "useful Idiots" and the "perpetually uninformed" assists their nefarious goal. As I've said on many forums, many different times, the globalists/NWO/elitists know that the USA is the last great impediment to world communism/socialism and must be brought to its knees - see anything on the current playing field that might further this agenda? :icon_wink:



Fred :spoken:

No. I don't agree with that.

Hey if I was a criminal the cities that defund their police would be sending me an open invitation to move there.

Exactly the same concept with "gun free zones", totally misguided efforts. It's akin to saying, "hey, criminals, come on over here to ply your trade … we're all unarmed"! As if criminals (by the very definition) pay any attention to such ludicrous rules! :ohdear:


Fred

FBI statics seem to put the lie to BLM assertions

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As a recent example of the MASS MEDIA deafness to this ever-expanding issue of inner city violence in the USA, here is an excerpt from an article, just this afternoon. Typical of the WH Press Corp - wanting THEIR narrative, "Statement" questions, a GOTCHA moment X25, and SILENCE for imperative issues we all face.
SHAME!!!!
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Kayleigh McEnany scolds reporters for not asking about deadly weekend of violence
White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany scolded reporters during Monday’s press briefing for failing to ask a single question about a violent weekend.


White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany scolded reporters during Monday’s press briefing for failing to ask a single question about a violent weekend that saw an 8-year-old girl die in Atlanta, as the nation saw a surge in gun violence.

“I’d end with this, I was asked probably 12 questions about the Confederate flag, this president is focused on action and I’m a little dismayed that I didn’t receive one question on the deaths that we got in this country this weekend,” McEnany said.

NEW YORK CITY VIOLENCE: 8 KILLED DURING FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND

“I didn’t receive one question about New York City shootings doubling for the third-straight week... not one question. I didn’t receive one question about five children who were killed,” McEnany said.

“I’ll leave you with this remark by a dad. It broke my heart, a dad of an 8-year-old last in Atlanta this weekend, ‘They say Black lives matter. You killed a child, she didn’t do nothing to nobody.’”

McEnany then said, “We need to be focused on securing our streets, making sure no lives are lost, because all black lives matter, that of [retired St. Louis police captain] David Dorn and that of this 8-year-old girl. Thank you.”

Chicago violence erupts during holiday weekend, at least 67 shot and 13 killedVideo
McEnany – who spent much of the press briefing responding to questions about a tweet President Trump sent earlier in the day about NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace – quickly left the stage after condemning reporters.

FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND MARKED BY VIOLENCE AS GIRL, 7, AMONG DEAD IN CHICAGO, CITIES SEE DEADLY SHOOTINGS

Many questions directed to McEnany were about the tweet, while reporters in the room overlooked a chaotic weekend filled with violence in many American cities as more than 14 were killed and dozens were injured in shootings.

An 8-year-old girl, identified by police as Secoriea Turner, was killed during a July 4 shooting near the Atlanta Wendy’s where a police officer shot and killed Rayshard Brooks last month.

Police said Turner was riding in a car with her mother and another adult when a group fired multiple times at the vehicle, hitting the girl. In Chicago, a city known for gun violence, more than 67 people were shot over the holiday weekend and at least 13 were killed, including a 7-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy.

White House: Time for Democratic local leaders to step up against violenceVideo


The New York City Police Department saw at least 44 shootings, from which there were 63 victims, from July 3 to July 5, according to data provided by the NYPD. Several shootings in the city of Baltimore over the weekend also left at least one person dead and eight injured.

Dorn, who was also referenced by McEnany, was killed while trying to protect his friend’s pawn shop from looters during the early hours of June 2, after a protest turned violent.

Kayleigh McEnany scolds reporters for not asking about deadly weekend of violence across America | Fox News
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Not if you get it legally.

Illegally

As should the questions!!

Steve

There is the issue of increasing violence across the USA and there is most definitely selectivity being employed on the subject or lack of it, all having to do with defunding/dismantling police and enforcement, hence pertinent
at the WH level.
Floyd was a local issue for about 30 seconds!

I 100% agree with this. Unfortunately, we are always chasing tweets or retweets..something that never existed before, and we have been assured that those tweets represent our government so they become very important as the world reads.

Me thinks, someone is trying to set the agenda. The dramatic PLANNED exits grow old.

The violence you refer to has existed for years, not recent.

And I disagree...defunding, funding, etc are local issues

So what you are saying is the media is falling into the trap? Me thinks the media is setting the agenda.

Steve

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I researched - WH Press Briefings, and got a transcript of today's --- I've edited to include ONLY the PRESS QUESTIONS for a taste... and her admonition at the end.


And with that, I’ll take questions.

Peter.

Q Kayleigh, I want to ask you just a couple questions. The first one: Why is the President so supportive of flying the Confederate flag?

Q For clarity, I’m asking you about the Confederate flags. My question is: Why is the President so supportive of flying the Confederate flag?

Q The President said that NASCAR saw bad ratings because they took down the Confederate flag, banned the Confederate flag. Does he believe NASCAR should fly the Confederate flag? And why don’t they fly it here?

Q Let me ask you about some of the President’s comments this weekend. The President said that 99 percent of coronavirus cases are totally harmless. Which members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force agree with that statement?

Q — just to follow up quickly, though. So if you don’t die, is it not harmless?

Q Kayleigh, to follow on Peter’s question, what is the President’s position? Does he think NASCAR made a mistake by banning the Confederate flag?

Q But let’s drill down on the Confederate flag. Does he think it was a mistake for NASCAR to ban it?

Q But what is his position on it?

Q Wasn’t he saying that NASCAR’s rating were down because they banned the flag? That’s what he said.

Q Does he think his supporters should not take the flag to Trump rallies? Has he considered banning the Confederate flag from Trump rallies?

Q Kayleigh, why is it Bubba Wallace’s responsibility to apologize for an investigation into a noose that he didn’t report and he never even saw? It was NASCAR that found this, that reported this. And even the FBI referred to it as a noose, even if they said it wasn’t a specific crime against Mr. Wallace. Why is the President even suggesting that Mr. Wallace should apologize?

Q He has.

Q In interviews, he’s been very clear that —

Q — the FBI found this was not intentional.

Q Why is he directing this at Mr. Wallace?

Q He was a victim of a suspected hate crime.

Q Who was charged? It was an open investigation, Kayleigh —

Q — into a noose. The FBI said —

Q — it was a noose.

Q But you’re suggesting that Mr. Wallace —

Q — should apologize for an investigation that someone else initiated, suggesting he was possibly the victim of a hate crime?

Q The Governor of South Dakota flew back on Air Force One after having contact with somebody who had tested positive for the virus. Why was that allowed to happen? Did she have contact with the President on the trip back? And has the President continued to test negative since that interaction?

Q But why — the original question is: Why was she to allowed to fly back on Air Force One with the President, when it was known that she had had contact with somebody who had tested positive for the virus?

Q On executive orders, the President has set a pretty brisk pace on those this year. And as a candidate, he had been critical of President Obama’s use of executive orders, but he seems to have really stepped up the pace on these. And I wanted to ask, you know, what does he find — what is the strategy behind issuing more than one a week so far this year? And I know he’s getting ready to issue more in the coming weeks.

Q Hi, Kayleigh. With regard to the President’s reference about the 99 percent being harmless, does the President worry at all that by downplaying the severity of the virus, that it will lead Americans to be less careful?

Q And just to follow up on the NASCAR thing: You were saying that we’re taking the tweet out of context, but this is what he tweeted. He says, “Has @BubbaWallace apologized to all of those great NASCAR drivers & officials who came to his aid, stood by his side, & were willing to sacrifice everything for him, only to find out that the whole thing was just another HOAX? That & Flag decision has caused lowest ratings EVER!”

Q Is the President comparing Smollett to Wallace?

Q Hold on. Hold on. Just that one thing it wasn’t clear in your response — and that’s why I asked about it again, and it follows up on Paula’s question — is: Why should Mr. Wallace have to apologize for that when his whole team and all of these colleagues came around him to show support?

Q No, he’s saying he has to apologize.

Q He’s saying he has to apologize. That’s what we’re trying to ask you, Kayleigh, is

Q — why should he have to apologize about that?

Q But you haven’t answered that question. I mean, you’ve been asked it, but you haven’t answered it.

Q You haven’t answered it.

Q Kayleigh, on the Confederate part: Why would the President not praise NASCAR for removing the Confederate flag, particularly given the history of that flag, the symbol that it has for African Americans, and also what it represents in terms of just the treasonous acts and the insurrection against the Republic?

Q Why would he not praise them for taking that down, even if it’s a ratings (inaudible)?

Q But, Kayleigh, the Confederate flag is a different issue.

Q Kayleigh, why — what exactly does the President see as positive or uniting then about the Confederate flag? Why does he — why did he decide to tweet about it then, this morning?

Q And, Kayleigh, to follow up —

Q Thank you. The President argued on Friday, and then again on Saturday, that many of the problems the country faces stem from, quote, “extreme indoctrination and bias” in the education system. If that’s the case, is he working with Secretary DeVos to address what he sees as a major problem?

You know, what — what steps is he taking to (inaudible) this? And could you give us an example?

Q Thank you, Kayleigh. I have question about masks. The President has, sort of, equivocated on the issue of masks, and we know that a number of Republicans are starting to say that it’s the single-most important thing that Americans can do to protect each other. What is the President’s message to Americans who hear those messages and say that they simply don’t want to wear a mask? What does the President say to those (inaudible)?

Q Thank you, Kayleigh. I wanted to say, first off, point of fact: Bubba Wallace did not make any kind of false report. And I’m wondering, in general, why the President thinks that issue is worth his time and focus right now in the midst of a deadly pandemic? And then also, you’ve said he has no opinion on the Confederate flag. Why can’t this White House unambiguously state whether or not it supports displays of the Confederate flag and —

Q — Confederate monuments, which are much more —

Q — a part of this question than Gandhi?

Q But you said Bubba Wallace made a false report; he didn’t.

Q But why is this cultural stuff worth his time and —

Q — focus during the pandemic?

Q And what about on an unambiguous statement on the Confederate flag? Are we capable of doing that?

Q Exactly. But why not?

Q Thanks, Kayleigh. Two quick questions, if I may. Does the President support the Cleveland Indians and the football team here in Washington considering changing their names?

Q And the other question: Who came up with the list of historical figures that the President wants honored in his — in his garden of statues that he put out this executive order about? Who came up with the list of people to be included?

Q Thank you, Kayleigh. The President signed the Payroll Protection Program extension over the weekend. There’s $132 billion in the pot. What does the President think that that money should be used for if it’s still there after August 8th? And then, in a CARES 4, specifically, what should be there to help small businesses?

Q Would he veto a bill then that did not have the payroll tax relief in it?

Q Thank you, Kayleigh, so much. As President Trump wants to reopen the country, what will be the criteria to cancel the travel bans? Because we know that the bans are still in place for European countries where the situation is under control. And, on the other hand, there is no ban on hotspots like Russia, India, or Mexico, for example. So what is the criteria?

Q Kayleigh, can I ask one more question?

Q European countries, and now the UK, are starting to open for touring visitors, but the U.S. is still banned. How do you think the world is looking at the United States right now?


Ending from The Press Secretary>>>>

And finally, I’d end with this: You know, I was asked probably 12 questions about the Confederate flag. This President is focused on action, and I’m a little dismayed that I didn’t receive one question on the deaths that we got in this country this weekend. I didn’t receive one question about New York City shootings doubling for the third straight week. And over the last seven days, shootings skyrocketed by 142 percent. Not one question. I didn’t receive one question about five children who were killed.

And I’ll leave you with this remark by a dad — it broke my heart — a dad of an eight-year-old lost in Atlanta this weekend: “They say black lives matter…you killed a child. She didn’t do nothing to nobody,” was his quote.

We need to be focused on securing our streets, making sure no lives are lost because all black lives matter — that of David Dorn and that of this eight-year-old girl.

Thank you.

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Thank you....I rest my case.
Only one question about anything of susbstance..
The payroll protection act. .
I watch these briefings almost daily, same crap from the media over and
over and over.....

Take out the queries based on untrue, accusatory tweets, what is left....as I mentioned

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Steve

Where is BLM every week to quell the violence. I just read they take in millions for the cause ,wonder who is being helped.

[QUOTE=ffresh;1798821]To understand the gun debate, one has to change his paradigm. It was never about saving lives. Far more people are killed every year from medical malfeasance, automobile accidents and myriad other causes. Gun control is TOTALLY about CONTROL, nothing more. With no guns, i.e. no defense, Americans would be subject to the whims of their government and defenseless to resist tyranny, as so many of The Founders admonished. There are numerous examples (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, ad nauseum) of "death by government"; in fact, genocide is the leading cause of death among the world's populations. Our ruling elite are intimately aware of this situation and are working overtime to change this equation! Complicity among the "useful Idiots" and the "perpetually uninformed" assists their nefarious goal. Very well said. What most people don’t realize is that the 2nd amendment is not only the right to bear arms but it was written by our founders because they knew that some day American citizens could be ruled by a dictator or a ruler who with the help of others at his direction disregarded or illegally changed the constitution and ruled with a slick tongue. The guns like it or not was a way to form a militia and overthrow the government to regain control by the people

13% of our population (blacks) commit 54% of the murders in America.

Let that sink in.....

Ahh ... a voice of reason.
 

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