Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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My siblings and I were raised around guns. Dad Was a collector and had over 60, Handguns and long guns, and they all worked. None were ever locked up. But we were taught from an early age how to respect and handle firearms, along with the responsibility that operating a firearm entailed. One of the few times I recall him being angry at me was when he saw me crossing the fence with a loaded rifle and without taking the cartridge out of the chamber. I was maybe 12 years old at the time, but the lesson stayed with me. But it wasn't just guns. Our parents made sure that we understood our responsibilities no matter what we undertook. We were taught early on that actions have consequences, and that we should not only know what those consequences were but to accept responsibility for our actions. We were by no means unique: living in rural northeastern meant that all the people who lived there saw both guns and responsibilities in the same manner. Guns were a tool like any other tool, the same as an ax, a chainsaw, or any tool that if used carelessly could turn around and bite you, and deserved to be respected and handled appropriately. This obviously did not happen in the case of this teenager. His parents, by their actions regarding this handgun, totally shirked their responsibility as a parent of this kid. The kid will pay the price, and he should. But my guess is that this incident was just the tip of an iceberg; a history of faulty parenting that probably went back to the time that he was a toddler. |
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Thank you, Bonnevie, for saving me time by filling in the blanks about the mother’s texts and social media posts, etc. (I was getting ready to respond to the OP with the same info you provided.) I hope those who think these parents are being unjustly treated will look beyond what seems to be only partial information they are seeing and hearing. The mother’s behavior — so clearly revealed in her own words — was vile beyond comprehension. There are many parents who destroy their own children and our society reaps what those parents sow. This time there was a trail on social media. I was teaching secondary ed when the news of Columbine hit. I immediately looked at my area and tried to assess what I would try to do to keep my students safe if shots rang out. (I actually made a plan in my head where it stayed for the many years I had remaining before retirement. I never had to find out how good my plan would have been — but I never forgot about it.) And my guess is that we have a country full of teachers — and former teachers — who want to see these parents brought to trial. If that happens, at the very least, maybe attention to parent responsibility, in general, will get a higher profile — for maybe 15 minutes. I am sadly not surprised by what I am seeing on TOTV from posters defending the parents who made a monster out of an innocent baby who came into their lives 15 years ago. A “married, two-parent family” ??? I guess that’s the latest buzz being programmed. Gimme a break. These two sure ain’t no Ozzie and Harriet. And I know a euphemism when I see one. Boomer Last edited by Boomer; 12-04-2021 at 11:14 AM. |
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My point is that is not fair for a prosecutor to charge these parents as criminals, when there are hundreds of other parents whose children have long criminal records as minors, including murder, and they are not prosecuted. It is clearly a double standard. The law should be more consistent.
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"Did you ever go fishing?" the cop asked. "Sure" the guy replied. "Did you ever catch every fish in the lake?" |
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If the kid is found guilty, execute him. If the parents are found guilty, jail them. Simple. But, until the court finds them guilty they are all considered "innocent." Case open until it isn't. Popular opinion doesn't mean anything.
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Is that better? The answer of course is that if that single Black parent bought a gun, knowingly provided access to that gun, knew their child was thinking about killing some schoolmates and did nothing even after the school expressed concern .. all of us would want that Black parent charged. Now find me that example.
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The Supreme Court has ruled that people under 18 cannot get the death penalty.
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I think more will come out. I'm sure a lot of us are wondering why the kid's back pack wasn't searched. was it because the parents said they didn't own a gun? or that the kid doesn't have access to the gun? did they forbid the search? the mother referred in the past about kid with troubles...maybe they were worried there would be more disturbing pictures? and why didn't the school require the kid to be removed immediately?? being a danger to others is justification for a 3 day psych hold. I just wonder what assurances the parents may have given for the school to think the kid posed no immediate danger.
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My question is why on earth would any parent give this mentally unstable 15 year old or allow him access to a weapon of any kind?
A previous post disclosed they were not the best citizens themselves, but geez!
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