Not even close to correct. According the the SSA, as of 2023, it was closer to 23%

And retirement at that age has been steadily dropping. As of 2023, it was around 23%...

Business react to economic conditions ,businesses have to compete with other business for customers and for employee the government makes fiscal and monetary policy a governmental agency controls interest rates, there by controlling the economy, without the lure/hope of profits/ ROI, no business, people put their money where it will give the best return, it isn't possible just to dial up a greater return, its a very complex balancing of resources for any business

Life expectancy rose as much as the retirement age did...

The point I am trying to make and provide some data to support is that MANY employees don’t make it to full Social Security Retirement age. 70% don’t make it to 65. Somewhere between 60-70% take Social Security benefits early. Many of these retirements are not voluntary. Corporations sever ties with a good number of employees before age 65.

Absolute nonsense...

A simple google search proves you're incorrect...
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In 2022, the life expectancy in the United States was 77.5 years, an increase of 1.1 years from 2021. The life expectancy for males was 74.8 years and for females it was 80.2 years."

I'm pretty sure you're misinterpreting RedSox's post. When they say "won't make it to 65" they mean "won't choose to wait to retire until they turn 65, which is the full retirement age." Has nothing to do with dying, and everything to do with retiring from the work force and choosing to take their earned social security checks.

me too........when I see my union guys. our leaders, I thank them everytime.....arguing with people about unions is like the abortion issue, and politics......blah blah blah...I know they are jealous that they arent in a union......

Clearly your not a union worker…..

Agreed!
...As the world passes us by, is correct!!!
Education in America leaves students illiterate throughout their school years and especially by the time they reach college. Cannot compete in math or science.

Students find that they'll need Unions to protect them, just like they did for their ancestors, because their college degrees don't mean a thing.

That depends on what they plan on doing with their degree.

You should probably have a degree in medicine if you want to be a doctor.
If you want to be a lawyer, you need a law degree.
A degree in business administration isn't "necessary" but it sure is super-helpful if you want to run a large business. If you want to be HIRED by someone else to run THEIR business, a degree would probably be required.
I wouldn't trust any school teacher that didn't have a degree.
A degree isn't necessary to become an elected official. But the education from attending a university or other higher learning institute would help a candidate open up their mind to new ideas, and I consider that a consideration, even though it's not a requisite.

Please provide support.

Florida education attainment is: 90% for High School & 33% for Bachelor's Degree or higher.

USA Average is: 90% for High School & 35% Bachelor's Degree or higher.

Pretty much average.
"It's not difficult to understand"

[QUOTE=Boomer;2376082]There are companies where perhaps a union is/was not needed. Many years ago I asked someone who worked in the manufacturing part of a huge, well-known company if they had a union. The response was, “We don’t need one.”

Also, said company made a lot of regular people very comfortable through profit-sharing. Can you imagine if companies like Walmart, for example, would have made profit-sharing available to ALL employees. Not only would there have been a lot of loyal employees on those cash registers, etc., just think of the learning experience that would have come from owning stock.

But a lot of companies plan to earn huge profits on the backs of employees and never consider how effective company stock all-around can be in moving a company forward with loyal employees. For companies that do not have stock, there are other ways to keep loyal employees and keep unions at bay. The employers’ choice to exploit is what brings in unions.

I am not saying all unions are perfect. But if unions are stomped into non-existence by those who have motives that risk our future overall economy, we will turn into another country.

This thread is going to turn into union-bashing. I can feel those wagons circling already.

Of course, most of those circling up will be the same people who expect teachers to devote their lives to working for basically nothing.

My point is — the middle class has been the backbone of our economy. Unions were instrumental in creating a strong middle class. If we lose our middle class, we are done. Unrestrained greed is bad

While going to college I worked for the phone in Wisconsin during summers. Their union was Communication Workers of America. The union specified how long it should take to do various tasks. With that, when I got my morning work load I found I could complete it in half a day. Many afternoons I and other workers would take in a matinee or sit in a bar or run household chores. Upon leaving the company's garbage in the morning it was off to a diner first thing for an hour or so breakfast. This union apparently was against maximum productivity.

The father of my girl friend at the time also worked for the phone company and was a union steward. He got both I and my girl friend jobs there. I do thank him for that. It paid quite well.

I’m with you on this. They’re inflationary with bargaining for higher and higher wages and benefits and minimize producdtivity. They had their purpose at one time long long ago.