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xcaligirl 08-31-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1825209)
One of the things that is unclear is if he was hit by a taser.

A taser will bring down pretty much anyone except people who are high on meth and similar substances. Some drugs give their users super human strength. If a cop tases a suspect and they don't go down, the cop should be very afraid.

So agree

dougjb 08-31-2020 07:29 AM

What sticks in my mind is this: It pertains to that kid who shot and killed two people.

The photos show that, after the killing, he walked towards the cops by approaching them with his hands raised and his assault weapon swinging from his belt. The cops did not detain him, they did not question him, they did nothing but pass him by.

Has it crossed anyone's mind what the cops would have done, had the kid been a black kid in the same situation?

manaboutown 08-31-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1825818)
What sticks in my mind is this: It pertains to that kid who shot and killed two people.

The photos show that, after the killing, he walked towards the cops by approaching them with his hands raised and his assault weapon swinging from his belt. The cops did not detain him, they did not question him, they did nothing but pass him by.

Has it crossed anyone's mind what the cops would have done, had the kid been a black kid in the same situation?

Possibly nothing as here: Black people march with guns at Stone Mountain, Georgia, with greetings of Black Love & Black Power - YouTube

Actually from videos and photos I have seen many of the rioters and looters, both black and white, are armed and the police are just standing by allowing it all to happen, no doubt under orders to do so.

Bucco 08-31-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1826001)
Possibly nothing as here: Black people march with guns at Stone Mountain, Georgia, with greetings of Black Love & Black Power - YouTube

Actually from videos and photos I have seen many of the rioters and looters, both black and white, are armed and the police are just standing by allowing it all to happen, no doubt under orders to do so.

I often wonder about posts like this.....

Do you search out videos to make others look bad, as with the phone videos surfaced by our government showing fire and brimstone in the USA, when in fact it is in SPAIN.

Is this type of thing a hobby or some sort ?

The video is about 6 weeks old and means nothing at all

Chaos

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1825155)
Two blades??

I could give an answer to that 2 blades question. IF(?), big (IF) (because I could NOT see one, but I will look harder next time it is run on TV) - - - So, assuming a knife in his LEFT hand as he walked slowly around the front of the car, then we see the grabbing of his shirt as he leans forward into the vicinity of his steering wheel, - then, he is shot in the lower back SEVEN times, - then the shock of being shot and his momentum forward would cause him to drop that knife - that ONE knife. So that answers the ONE knife question, not 2 knives..........But, several questions remain. Could or SHOULD (?) he have been shot in the leg or arm? Should he have been kicked in the back of the leg when he was in front of the car? Or shot in the leg at THAT point. After all they ONLY wanted him to STOP walking away S L O W L Y from the POLICE. HOPEFULLY, they were not thinking then at that point that he NEEDED to DIE for just not stopping. So. that would have been a GOOD time to shoot him in the LEG if that felt they HAD to shoot him. What was in their mind at that point we can never know. Most posts here are convinced that the Police side was justified. But, I am suspicious about something not QUITE making sense in the video of this shooting. I wish the Police had the SOUND part of there cameras turned on. Why was it not? That could have made me understand the situation more. I hope that an investigation or a jury trial would straighten that out. But, I fear that the rush to condemn him will WIN the day?????

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1825214)
Unless you've been in that kind of situation or have some training with handguns, you can't understand how difficult it is to hit a moving target even at point blank range.

The officer was wrestling with the guy. The guy was moving all over the place and possible grabbing for the gun. It doesn't take much movement for a bullet to be sent off line.

There were three misses. Some of those four hits may have consisted of scrapes in the arms or legs.

Training says that you keep shooting until the person goes down. I would not have an opinion until I know exactly where the wounds are.

Scrape wounds would not be sufficient for surgery and a Doctor saying it is UNLIKELY that he ever walks again. That is at least 1 shot to the spine.

jimbomaybe 09-04-2020 12:05 PM

shoot in the leg ?
 
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828112)
I could give an answer to that 2 blades question. IF(?), big (IF) (because I could NOT see one, but I will look harder next time it is run on TV) - - - So, assuming a knife in his LEFT hand as he walked slowly around the front of the car, then we see the grabbing of his shirt as he leans forward into the vicinity of his steering wheel, - then, he is shot in the lower back SEVEN times, - then the shock of being shot and his momentum forward would cause him to drop that knife - that ONE knife. So that answers the ONE knife question, not 2 knives..........But, several questions remain. Could or SHOULD (?) he have been shot in the leg or arm? Should he have been kicked in the back of the leg when he was in front of the car? Or shot in the leg at THAT point. After all they ONLY wanted him to STOP walking away S L O W L Y from the POLICE. HOPEFULLY, they were not thinking then at that point that he NEEDED to DIE for just not stopping. So. that would have been a GOOD time to shoot him in the LEG if that felt they HAD to shoot him. What was in their mind at that point we can never know. Most posts here are convinced that the Police side was justified. But, I am suspicious about something not QUITE making sense in the video of this shooting. I wish the Police had the SOUND part of there cameras turned on. Why was it not? That could have made me understand the situation more. I hope that an investigation or a jury trial would straighten that out. But, I fear that the rush to condemn him will WIN the day?????


I can only assume you have no experience with violent confrontations, perhaps movies and TV representations that are just fantasies, If a police officer has reason to use deadly force that is what is called for ,,right now

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1825366)
Why police shoot so many times to bring down a suspect - CNN

"The "textbook answer" is that officers fire until they've terminated a threat, according to Seth Stoughton, an associate professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law who studies policing.
Officers use deadly force on a suspect they perceive to be an imminent threat of death or bodily harm to the officers or others. In training, police are told to use force until that person no longer presents a threat, Stoughton said."


These threats to police officers, while posts on this forum might indicate to be new and original, have been going on for many years.....well, since any policing began.

We just have to learn not to create chaos, as we are pushed to do.

Protestors are just fine.....riots never ever have been considered anything but lawlessness.

Why posts on here need to jump on one side or another is well beyond me, because who in the world are you speaking to. Even the most energetic protestor you can find will be anti rioting. Why does there even exist a question as to why they exist......they are not always, but mostly from outside agitators yet we never criticize them.

Police need no defense.....someday, we have to discuss this rationally and without creating sides

That was a thoughtful post. Someday, maybe (?) in 15 years, we will have A.I. Robotic police for the beat and human inspectors / investigators. The robots will have NO fear of being themselves harmed so should be able to make good logical decisions in each criminal incident. Until then we are only left with failable humans. What we are working on now is trying to eliminate any systemic biases (as much as possible). That is the problem that we and the media and judges are trying to work out. I believe that because of so many people having cell phone cameras and sound that the problem has become PUSHED to the front of people's consciousness. So, society is grappling with it more today.

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1825578)
On a more serious note in my reading of various publications about this events a lot of what he is saying jibes with what other reports have come out.

Rather amazing that each one of these people who have been at the hands of the police were not exactly model citizens.

The nba cancels a few nights of games in protest of this fellow who in my opinion from what I have read deserved what he got. Am I supposed to be upset that the protest over this shooting, nope each time I care less and less.

"caring less and less" and NOT paying attention to current events and social trends can / might (?) lead to something no one wants - a fascist Police state. But, hopefully, NOT ?

Number 10 GI 09-04-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 1825818)
What sticks in my mind is this: It pertains to that kid who shot and killed two people.

The photos show that, after the killing, he walked towards the cops by approaching them with his hands raised and his assault weapon swinging from his belt. The cops did not detain him, they did not question him, they did nothing but pass him by.

Has it crossed anyone's mind what the cops would have done, had the kid been a black kid in the same situation?

The same exact thing, let him walk on by.

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 1828130)
I can only assume you have no experience with violent confrontations, perhaps movies and TV representations that are just fantasies, If a police officer has reason to use deadly force that is what is called for ,,right now

That seems like the "quick and dirty, " black and white" answer that is parroted out by Police apologists to shout / proclaim Police innocence. There are GOOD Police and BAD Police and some in-between Police. Obvious situations and nuanced situations. There HAS to be SOME situations by LOGIC alone that are in-between situations and where creative solutions can occur in EVEN in the heat of a quickly developing situation.

I stated in my post NOT just what to do "shoot in the leg" but when to do it "as he was in front of the car". My LYING EYES showed that to me. maybe not for yourself. Regardless, I stand by my opinion and post.

jimjamuser 09-04-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 1828130)
I can only assume you have no experience with violent confrontations, perhaps movies and TV representations that are just fantasies, If a police officer has reason to use deadly force that is what is called for ,,right now

Plus the bulk of my post talked about why there was, probably, one knife, not two.

John41 09-04-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828194)
That seems like the "quick and dirty, " black and white" answer that is parroted out by Police apologists to shout / proclaim Police innocence. There are GOOD Police and BAD Police and some in-between Police. Obvious situations and nuanced situations. There HAS to be SOME situations by LOGIC alone that are in-between situations and where creative solutions can occur in EVEN in the heat of a quickly developing situation.

I stated in my post NOT just what to do "shoot in the leg" but when to do it "as he was in front of the car". My LYING EYES showed that to me. maybe not for yourself. Regardless, I stand by my opinion and post.

You really have no clue about neutralizing threats in a fluid situation. It appears now the police in the George Floyd incident will be completely exonerated and perhaps sue the Floyd clan of miscreants. The police in the Blake shooting will also be exonerated.

jimbomaybe 09-05-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828194)
That seems like the "quick and dirty, " black and white" answer that is parroted out by Police apologists to shout / proclaim Police innocence. There are GOOD Police and BAD Police and some in-between Police. Obvious situations and nuanced situations. There HAS to be SOME situations by LOGIC alone that are in-between situations and where creative solutions can occur in EVEN in the heat of a quickly developing situation.

I stated in my post NOT just what to do "shoot in the leg" but when to do it "as he was in front of the car". My LYING EYES showed that to me. maybe not for yourself. Regardless, I stand by my opinion and post.

You have read a few thing into my post that are not there , I made a general statement, quick and dirty? in regards to what? "creative solutions" "shoot in leg" and you think you know when to shoot a person? and I stand by my post , everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, the worth of that opinion depends on knowledge and experience

Bay Kid 09-05-2020 08:49 AM

If the dummy had just done what he was told. This isn't a black or white problem. Just a dummy that has no respect for anything.

PugMom 09-05-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1825466)
No. He was struggling with this felon who just a few minutes earlier had an officer in a headlock, broke away from being tased, and ran around his car holding a knife then reaching for something inside the driver’s side. Is he supposed to ask him if he’s reaching for a gun then wait to see if he will turn and only shoot him once? The felon refused to submit and resisted with violence. The number of shots does’t matter!

OR~!~...he may have been reaching for a weapon, then use that weapon to take one or all of the kids in the back seat as hostages. all the kids & perp may have been killed in such an escalation, and i can only imagine what the headlines would've said if that happened. 'inept police allow kids to be killed.' damned if you do, damned if you don't. blake was a bad man. period.

jacksonbrown 09-06-2020 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1828635)
BLM and Antifa want EXACTLY that. Both are Marxist Totalitarian 5th columns and want nothing more than the destruction and end of the United States.

And, organizations that continue to solicit (extort) donations from major corporations, local businesses and property owners.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-06-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828114)
Scrape wounds would not be sufficient for surgery and a Doctor saying it is UNLIKELY that he ever walks again. That is at least 1 shot to the spine.

Correct. But where are the other three wounds and where the the other three shots go.

There are a lot of reasons why there were three shots. Some of you are passing judgement without having all of the information.

John41 09-06-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1828943)
And, organizations that continue to solicit (extort) donations from major corporations, local businesses and property owners.

That’s what’s really bothers me, the ingratitude of major corporations towards the police. Corporations can no longer be counted on to be pro American. As Marx wrote capitalist greed will be the engine of their own demise.

jj6426 09-06-2020 10:35 AM

First of all, in defense of the police, what is wrong with these suspects who don't cooperate with the police? If you're stopped or caught by the police, deal with it. You have no chance otherwise. In defense of the suspect, why shoot him? Why kill him? Why not taser him? Or, in the case of Jacob Blake who was trying to get into his car, why not shoot out his tires? If there is more than one policeman, why can't they grab him and handcuff him? He ( Blake) was stronger than a cop? Than two cops? Although I may be missing something, it seems to me that the cops were just enraged that this guy was fighting them---and they shot him out of anger not as a last means of capturing him. I would love to hear if a policeman agrees with anything I've said.

canyonblue 09-06-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jj6426 (Post 1829131)
In defense of the suspect, why shoot him? Why kill him? Why not taser him? Or, in the case of Jacob Blake who was trying to get into his car, why not shoot out his tires? If there is more than one policeman, why can't they grab him and handcuff him? He ( Blake) was stronger than a cop? Than two cops? Although I may be missing something, it seems to me that the cops were just enraged that this guy was fighting them---and they shot him out of anger not as a last means of capturing him.

A lot of WHY'S in that paragraph. Probably the most important why is why do people disobey and ignore police commands. I've never been a cop, but I will never second guess a person who has a split second to make a decision on whether or not you're about to be killed by a criminal who is resisting arrest and going into his car for something. Wake up people! It's the cops that are being killed for NO reason.

JGVillages 09-06-2020 01:44 PM

Blake resisted, had an officer in a choke hold, escaped after being tasered to run around his car to reach in the driver’s side for something. After all this resistance you have 1.5 seconds to determine if it’s ........................; sorry too late, it was a gun. You are dead. If that had happened it would have been just another officer murdered with minimal press coverage and certainly no looting and burning prior to, and after the murderers trial.

graciegirl 09-07-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1825571)
Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant. He made statements of fact, without mentioning where those facts came from. If I told you I know for an absolute fact that the Easter Bunny murdered Santa in 1974, and the current Santa is actually a Russian spy, would you a) believe me because I told you it's a fact? b) decide I'm stark raving bonkers, which is entirely possible but you don't know THAT for sure either? or c) ask me to prove it?


Also - the current Santa isn't a Russian spy. But it's very possible that the Easter Bunny killed the one in 1974.

The facts are; one after another people with records of law breaking ignore law enforcement's command of STOP. Then they are shot. The police do this for a number of reasons. It depends whether you have always respected authority or not, how you "feel" about this.

Have you counseled your children to be respectful to you, to their teachers and principal, to their boss, to their church tenets, to commonly held authority? We have.

justjim 09-07-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1825447)
Not to worry about that :)

Fact is, most posts on here can be traced directly to another social media or a source with direct motives, not necessarily for the good of our country.

Making loud accusations or comments with no credible backup should not be allowed, but it is and is hard to police frankly.

No, social media is almost "devils work" no matter where or what. It is now "a tool" of un-American activities and the sad thing, it is "used" so well that innocents get caught up and do not realize the source or the reason. NOR do they care, frankly.

Most trouble I get into with mods is when I question someone as they spread lies or half truths. Showing scenes and presenting them as in our country when they are from another......accusing a person or group of terrible things with zero credible back up......currentlyi calling agitators...protestors......or similar is terribly wrong and making that call is not always wrong, but NOW it is accepted fact which is what the manipulators of this form of media want....then you are theirs.

You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-07-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mendy (Post 1825062)
There are at least 2 sides to every story. Hopefully the truth comes out soon.

Updates From Kenosha, Wisconsin Following Jacob Blake Shooting : NPR

So the first thing that we know is wrong is that he wasn't shot in the back seven times. What w know is that seven shots were fired, four hit him and one hit him in the spine.

The fact that he was fighting with police was probably what caused three shots to mis him and three others to not have the effect of stopping him.

The Rittenhouse case is a separate incident.

Bucco 09-07-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1829525)
You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

Boy, have you nailed it.

There may be some, but most third world countries or those who were overthrown began with attacking the press.

You must stop the citizenry from knowing the truth is the precursor to...well, up to us I guess.

holger danske 09-07-2020 08:52 AM

and we know he was armed
 
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looks like a curved blade

Dana1963 09-07-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828112)
I could give an answer to that 2 blades question. IF(?), big (IF) (because I could NOT see one, but I will look harder next time it is run on TV) - - - So, assuming a knife in his LEFT hand as he walked slowly around the front of the car, then we see the grabbing of his shirt as he leans forward into the vicinity of his steering wheel, - then, he is shot in the lower back SEVEN times, - then the shock of being shot and his momentum forward would cause him to drop that knife - that ONE knife. So that answers the ONE knife question, not 2 knives..........But, several questions remain. Could or SHOULD (?) he have been shot in the leg or arm? Should he have been kicked in the back of the leg when he was in front of the car? Or shot in the leg at THAT point. After all they ONLY wanted him to STOP walking away S L O W L Y from the POLICE. HOPEFULLY, they were not thinking then at that point that he NEEDED to DIE for just not stopping. So. that would have been a GOOD time to shoot him in the LEG if that felt they HAD to shoot him. What was in their mind at that point we can never know. Most posts here are convinced that the Police side was justified. But, I am suspicious about something not QUITE making sense in the video of this shooting. I wish the Police had the SOUND part of there cameras turned on. Why was it not? That could have made me understand the situation more. I hope that an investigation or a jury trial would straighten that out. But, I fear that the rush to condemn him will WIN the day?????

We only saw about a 45 second video missing the incident on the other side of SUV. Viewed were 3 police following suspect guns drawn to drivers side of SUV. These 3 officers lost control of situation lost their cool acted on fear. The Police did not have body camera’s issued the them.

Dana1963 09-07-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1825466)
No. He was struggling with this felon who just a few minutes earlier had an officer in a headlock, broke away from being tased, and ran around his car holding a knife then reaching for something inside the driver’s side. Is he supposed to ask him if he’s reaching for a gun then wait to see if he will turn and only shoot him once? The felon refused to submit and resisted with violence. The number of shots does’t matter!

Your making stuff up about holding a knife! That was not a part of police report you made it up to fit your narrative

graciegirl 09-07-2020 10:27 AM

It could have ended like this;


video of officer being shot who was wearing a body camera - Bing video

Another one; video of officer being shot who was wearing a body camera - Bing video

eremite06 09-07-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by holger danske (Post 1829565)
looks like a curved blade

If it is a curved blade, US Special Forces could tell you with a stab and one cut, a person will bleed out in a matter of minutes.

manaboutown 09-07-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 1829650)
If it is a curved blade, US Special Forces could tell you with a stab and one cut, a person will bleed out in a matter of minutes.

It looked like a fighting knife made by Karambit to me. Best Karambit Knives - Top 7 Karambits | Blade HQ

John41 09-07-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1829525)
You make some good points. I’ve said this before. Social Media and 24 hour Cable Media is much different than the mainstream press IMHO. A free press is absolutely necessary for a free Country. Let me be clear all media is protected by the First Amendment. Just because we may disagree doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to our opinion and it’s not necessarily fake news it’s just your opinion. Some are demonizing the media. Careful what you wish for. You wouldn’t have the same rights in Russia or China or many other places.

Some are demonizing the police and support defunding them. Careful what you wish for.

Lindsyburnsy 09-08-2020 10:23 AM

Still trying to figure out why anybody would need to shoot another person 7 times IN THE BACK and then find a knife in the car. Please stop supporting this type of behavior. Our police need to be trained better. This is inexcusable.

dewilson58 09-08-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by holger danske (Post 1829565)
looks like a curved blade


I heard, but have not seen.

Thanks for posting.

MDLNB 09-08-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1828112)
I could give an answer to that 2 blades question. IF(?), big (IF) (because I could NOT see one, but I will look harder next time it is run on TV) - - - So, assuming a knife in his LEFT hand as he walked slowly around the front of the car, then we see the grabbing of his shirt as he leans forward into the vicinity of his steering wheel, - then, he is shot in the lower back SEVEN times, - then the shock of being shot and his momentum forward would cause him to drop that knife - that ONE knife. So that answers the ONE knife question, not 2 knives..........But, several questions remain. Could or SHOULD (?) he have been shot in the leg or arm? Should he have been kicked in the back of the leg when he was in front of the car? Or shot in the leg at THAT point. After all they ONLY wanted him to STOP walking away S L O W L Y from the POLICE. HOPEFULLY, they were not thinking then at that point that he NEEDED to DIE for just not stopping. So. that would have been a GOOD time to shoot him in the LEG if that felt they HAD to shoot him. What was in their mind at that point we can never know. Most posts here are convinced that the Police side was justified. But, I am suspicious about something not QUITE making sense in the video of this shooting. I wish the Police had the SOUND part of there cameras turned on. Why was it not? That could have made me understand the situation more. I hope that an investigation or a jury trial would straighten that out. But, I fear that the rush to condemn him will WIN the day?????


Officers are NOT taught to shoot in the leg or arm. That could be potentially dangerous to bystanders and also easy to miss the small moving target. Officers are taught "center mass" meaning vital organs of the body, and also the largest portion and easiest to hit.

MDLNB 09-08-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1830206)
Still trying to figure out why anybody would need to shoot another person 7 times IN THE BACK and then find a knife in the car. Please stop supporting this type of behavior. Our police need to be trained better. This is inexcusable.


I am all for more and better training of the police. Perhaps if this officer was a better shot he would have killed the suspect with one shot. More funding is important instead of DEFUNDING. Seriously though, a moving target and pumping adrenaline makes even the best shooter hard put to hit where they want the bullet to go.

MDLNB 09-08-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1828213)
You really have no clue about neutralizing threats in a fluid situation. It appears now the police in the George Floyd incident will be completely exonerated and perhaps sue the Floyd clan of miscreants. The police in the Blake shooting will also be exonerated.


Hallelujah! Chalk up a couple more for the good guys.

Number 10 GI 09-08-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jj6426 (Post 1829131)
First of all, in defense of the police, what is wrong with these suspects who don't cooperate with the police? If you're stopped or caught by the police, deal with it. You have no chance otherwise. In defense of the suspect, why shoot him? Why kill him? Why not taser him? Or, in the case of Jacob Blake who was trying to get into his car, why not shoot out his tires? If there is more than one policeman, why can't they grab him and handcuff him? He ( Blake) was stronger than a cop? Than two cops? Although I may be missing something, it seems to me that the cops were just enraged that this guy was fighting them---and they shot him out of anger not as a last means of capturing him. I would love to hear if a policeman agrees with anything I've said.

You've never tried to subdue and individual that doesn't want to be subdued. Why don't you do some research, he was shot with a taser twice. Shoot out the tires and let him drive away with children in the vehicle, brilliant!:ohdear:

Aloha1 09-08-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1829548)
Boy, have you nailed it.

There may be some, but most third world countries or those who were overthrown began with attacking the press.

You must stop the citizenry from knowing the truth is the precursor to...well, up to us I guess.

But when the press has already been coopted to support only one narrative, then what?


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