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Byte1 08-20-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1820227)
That junk mail is why you only have to pay 55 cents to mail a 1-ounce standard envelope anywhere in this country.
Amazon deliveries are why the Postal Service is still up and running at all. Without their revenue they would have shut down a few years ago.

Millions of people still rely on the postal service to deliver and send actual mail. Not everyone has internet service, not everyone even lives in an area where internet service is available - even if they could afford to have a computer, laptop, tablet, or smartphone to receive and send mail and other communication.

Some segments of this country are "off the grid." The USPS is their lifeline to the outside world.

That's their choice. The whole country does NOT revolve around a minority. Even if the media attempts to make it so.

Byte1 08-20-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1820433)
Just because your employer fooled you into a 401k doesn’t make it right for everyone. Today we are sitting on a stock market inflated by The FED again buying JUNK BONDS. It’s funny money.

Doesn't "funny money" pay the bills?

Stu from NYC 08-20-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1820433)
Just because your employer fooled you into a 401k doesn’t make it right for everyone. Today we are sitting on a stock market inflated by The FED again buying JUNK BONDS. It’s funny money.

Not right for everyone but few companies these days are offering pensions. Many municipal pensions are well under water and functionally bankrupt.

davem4616 08-20-2020 01:26 PM

I find it really difficult to sort out the truth from fiction today... who do you really believe...everyone is pushing their own agenda and their own bias and pointing the finger at the other fellow

retiredguy123 08-20-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryD (Post 1820401)
Please get your facts straight before making claims.
Some people still receive their benefits the old fashioned way, thanks to mail delivery.

Nearly 550,000 people are receiving paper Social Security checks in August, according to Social Security Administration data. That number goes up to about 848,000 if you include Supplemental Security Income.

But the vast majority — over 63 million — access their benefits via direct deposit.

So, my statement was 99.13 percent accurate. Picky, picky.

Stu from NYC 08-20-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1820453)
I find it really difficult to sort out the truth from fiction today... who do you really believe...everyone is pushing their own agenda and their own bias and pointing the finger at the other fellow

The people who have previously worked for the post office pretty much all say that it is inefficiently managed and way behind the times technologically speaking.

If the govt expects it to stand on its own too feet they should get rid of the 75 year funding pension nonsense and probably allow people to get 401's and let it figure out what it needs to do its job in an efficient manner.

catlady1955@aol.com 08-20-2020 03:15 PM

Agree
 
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Originally Posted by Paper1 (Post 1820090)
Our grandchildren will profit by bringing USPS to cost neutral regardless of Ben Franklin's involvement. Yearly cost over runs are being added to national debt we all know we are not paying, our grandchildren are. You imply the USPS service is being treated unfairly due to being forced to fund future retiree healthcare cost. All public service retirement plans should be mandated to do this. We have become dependent on spending more than we take in with taxes and are very comfortable with letting next generations worry about it. USPS needs to be brought into 21st century. IMHO

But right now is not the time to fix what has been limping along for a long time. If people vote in areas that have long lines and long waits they are endangering their health. And to slow down the mail I believe is illegal.

biker1 08-20-2020 04:45 PM

I guess you don't understand the concept of asset allocation. By the way, my 401Ks, which were completely portable, provided an excellent return over the years. And my employer did not fool anybody.

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1820433)
Just because your employer fooled you into a 401k doesn’t make it right for everyone. Today we are sitting on a stock market inflated by The FED again buying JUNK BONDS. It’s funny money.


jscocco 08-20-2020 05:39 PM

One should witness the abundance of WASTE and inefficiency that has become the norm in the Mail Handling facilities throughout our country. An overhaul is way overdue.

soonerforever 08-20-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryD (Post 1820401)
Please get your facts straight before making claims.
Some people still receive their benefits the old fashioned way, thanks to mail delivery.

Nearly 550,000 people are receiving paper Social Security checks in August, according to Social Security Administration data. That number goes up to about 848,000 if you include Supplemental Security Income.

But the vast majority — over 63 million — access their benefits via direct deposit.


Claims that Americans rely on the United States Postal Service for Social Security benefits are invalid because the Social Security Administration stopped mailing paper checks in 2013.

source APNEWS

junieben 08-20-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1820094)
I wish people would stop saying that the USPS delivers Social Security checks. They don't. All payments are made by direct deposit. It's mandatory.

Many people opt to have printed checks as they have no checking accounts. Takes money to have an account.
ENT cards aren’t always practical.

retiredguy123 08-20-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by junieben (Post 1820566)
Many people opt to have printed checks as they have no checking accounts. Takes money to have an account.
ENT cards aren’t always practical.

I don't think that paper checks are allowed anymore. You must sign up for direct deposit. Apparently, some people are grandfathered in.

Snowprint 08-20-2020 08:07 PM

I disagree
 
There is, and never has been, a policy to threaten employees for talking to anyone. Never before have USPS employees been threatened with answering questions from the press. Never before have they been threatened for talking to about their jobs. I know private companies get away with that nonsense, but the USPS is OUR, the American people, company and we have never said it was okay to muzzle OUR employees unless it threatened national security. I think anyone that defends silencing people is not cognizant of what America was founded upon. It wasn’t founded to allow a King decide who can talk and who they can talk to. This is tyranny and it’s shameful to defend the indefensible.

soonerforever 08-20-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowprint (Post 1820589)
There is, and never has been, a policy to threaten employees for talking to anyone. Never before have USPS employees been threatened with answering questions from the press. Never before have they been threatened for talking to about their jobs. I know private companies get away with that nonsense, but the USPS is OUR, the American people, company and we have never said it was okay to muzzle OUR employees unless it threatened national security. I think anyone that defends silencing people is not cognizant of what America was founded upon. It wasn’t founded to allow a King decide who can talk and who they can talk to. This is tyranny and it’s shameful to defend the indefensible.

I am a retired USPS employee and I concur that it would be impossible to silence those workers.

This is nothing but a ploy....don't believe 99.999% of what you see in the media.

retiredguy123 08-20-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowprint (Post 1820589)
There is, and never has been, a policy to threaten employees for talking to anyone. Never before have USPS employees been threatened with answering questions from the press. Never before have they been threatened for talking to about their jobs. I know private companies get away with that nonsense, but the USPS is OUR, the American people, company and we have never said it was okay to muzzle OUR employees unless it threatened national security. I think anyone that defends silencing people is not cognizant of what America was founded upon. It wasn’t founded to allow a King decide who can talk and who they can talk to. This is tyranny and it’s shameful to defend the indefensible.

Wow! These people work for you and me. They were hired to deliver the mail, not to trash the Government, or to even comment on it. Why would you want them to badmouth their employer, who us, the taxpayers? If they don't agree with the Government policies, they should quit and get another job. How does it make any sense to hire Government employees and then encourage them to try to harm our country? And, the Post Office employees are smart enough to know that they cannot be terminated.


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