[Byte1]

Slightly outdated by a month, but still concerning. Since even though the total numbers are smaller than the virus deaths, it is still a bit alarming that the death toll is so much higher than previous years when it comes to reported vax related deaths. I haven't heard any of this discussed in the News, but maybe I missed it?

VAERS Summary for COVID-19 Vaccines through 8/13/2021 – VAERS Analysis

[graciegirl]

VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Instead of checking a third-party website that analyzes data from a source, without telling you what their metrics were for their analysis, why not just check the VAERS database yourself?

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

That is the actual VAERS website. The one you linked to it not a government site.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Also, VAERS does not determine cause of death. They're pretty particular about making sure the user of their database understands that. "Reported death" means someone reported that someone died. It doesn't mean that a death was confirmed, that a death was caused by anything in particular. But this is, specifically a vaccine-data website so there will always be some kind of correlation which does not mean causation.

If someone gets vaccinated and falls out of a tree, their death is not caused by the vaccine, it's caused by breaking their neck during a fall.

However if someone gets vaccinated, and climbs a tree that day and suddenly gets dizzy and then falls and breaks their neck, THAT would be a "correlation." But it still doesn't mean there's a causation. Their dizziness could've been caused by a momentary hearing imbalance as a result of running a chainsaw on four other trees in the yard right before they climbed that one.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Instead of checking a third-party website that analyzes data from a source, without telling you what their metrics were for their analysis, why not just check the VAERS database yourself?

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

That is the actual VAERS website. The one you linked to it not a government site.

So the information is FALSE?
You believe that it's only accurate if it comes from a government site? Seems like we had some problem with the CDC website recently.
Still, whether accurate or not, is it not concerning to anyone that we have not heard (or I haven't) anything related to this subject in the media, whether MSM or the other? Perhaps they worry that this information would undermine the "agenda?"

[PugMom]

i have been to this site in the past. i'm not so sure the info is false, just that anyone can 'report' an incident, & if i remember correctly, the site does not validate any info posted. please correct if i am wrong

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i have been to this site in the past. i'm not so sure the info is false, just that anyone can 'report' an incident, & if i remember correctly, the site does not validate any info posted. please correct if i am wrong

Good point.
I wonder how the CDC tabulates it's numbers of infections. Does it count how many PEOPLE are infected or how many TESTS showed positive. Not the same. And my understanding of how they diagnose the results of the tests is that they run each test up to 40 times. If they get a positive result after ten they call it positive. If it has to go to 40 with no positive, they call it negative. What I read my be incorrect, but that is what I get from how they conduct the tests. And then, my understanding now is that even the Flu can show up as a positive on those tests.
So, is it how many positive tests or how many people actually tested positive? How do they avoid counting one person tested five times as five infections? And if someone tells me that they have a database of names tested positive, then prove it to me. How do they register home test kit results?

[GrumpyOldMan]

I think the point of questioning this sites data is simply it is "reported" data. Sort of like "exit polls". Anyone can report something, and somethings won't get reported. I would steer clear of anything based on non-validated/verified data.

At least that is my understanding of the data - I am open to being corrected.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I think the point of questioning this sites data is simply it is "reported" data. Sort of like "exit polls". Anyone can report something, and somethings won't get reported. I would steer clear of anything based on non-validated/verified data.

At least that is my understanding of the data - I am open to being corrected.

Uh, how does one report their own death by vaccine? Just being facetious. My understanding was that doctors are reporting the deaths to VAERS. Maybe I am mistaken.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Uh, how does one report their own death by vaccine? Just being facetious. My understanding was that doctors are reporting the deaths to VAERS. Maybe I am mistaken.

If folks do not like the information, then the site is not a valid source of information.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's a source of information. It's just not the kind of information you are assuming it is. This is the layman's explanation of the function of VAERS and how the CDC uses the data:

If there are numerous reports by a variety of people (or medical professionals, or pharmaceutical companies) all stating similar side effects - then the CDC will look for patterns. If they find a pattern, they'll investigate it and see if there's any significant correlation that deserves further investigation to explore possible causation.

A guy who dies - and is discovered to have fallen out of that tree that I mentioned in my previous post - would not be counted among "people with problems that show a pattern with this vaccine." It would not be a correlation, it would be coincidental.

However - if all of a sudden you have 400 people who don't normally ever climb trees, all suddenly climbing trees and falling out of them and dying..

well now you have a pattern. And now the CDC has to check that out and see if there's something about the vaccine that is causing people to go insane and have some compulsion to climb trees and fall out of them.

I use this ridiculous example because it's the most obvious one I can think of that would really show a distinction between "correlation" and "causation" and why the CDC would only investigate certain data and disregard other data.

The info is made public, but it's not intended to be used by the public for anything at all. It is one tool among many that the CDC and the FDA use to gather data about vaccines. Nothing more or less.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Uh, how does one report their own death by vaccine? Just being facetious. My understanding was that doctors are reporting the deaths to VAERS. Maybe I am mistaken.

You are mistaken. Any person can report whatever they want to this system. This would include antivax people reporting fake reports of deaths to further their agenda that the vaccines are dangerous. The system is totally not designed for use in the way the OP is using it. The CDC does not report the source of the reports. It does use the system for monitoring the post marketing safety of vaccine products.

The website the OP is using for his information is hardly a neutral site. It describes the use of vaccines as
"Especially in the face of the greatest medical experiment in history?"

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Slightly outdated by a month, but still concerning. Since even though the total numbers are smaller than the virus deaths, it is still a bit alarming that the death toll is so much higher than previous years when it comes to reported vax related deaths. I haven't heard any of this discussed in the News, but maybe I missed it?

VAERS Summary for COVID-19 Vaccines through 8/13/2021 – VAERS Analysis

You didnt miss it. They report it, they get cancelled. A major reason many are fearful of this shot. The government and msm push to censor any dissenting views

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
VAERS - Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness.

So birth defects, deaths and reactions to the vaccine are actually higher than the vaers shows. That is even more frightening.