Asking please is good at this point and helpful, but what if we were STILL asking please about seat belts and speed limits - and PLEASE pay your taxes, pretty please. My point is that the Federal government is the one in charge of PROTECTING its citizens, so at some point, IF the CV remains out of control, The US Government MUST step in and mandate compliance - just like seat belts. And it will take some time.

That is simply a chicken and the egg thing. Which caused the other first?

If total fatalities are ONLY 793 for ALL the CV period, then that just proves my point. And 221 deaths over S. Korea's last 15 days also proves MY point because Florida has averaged around 90 death per day for our recent period. I could have used multiple countries to prove MY point New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, and just about ALL of the Scandinavian Countries. My point is for people to look OUTSIDE the US for examples of good Governance in an emergency and other problem situations. Do not assume that the US does well for its citizens in comparison to other countries. Make THAT comparison and see. The US DID well (past tense) in the 50s but NOT so much today. Just compare and look at world-wide charts - they are READILY available.

It does not prove your point at all. (Well maybe in your mind it does) You stated that CV was in South Korea's rear view mirror. That would indicate that in your mind South Korea had beaten the virus. South Korea is now experiencing their worst spike of this pandemic. Does that really sound like a success to you? Does that sound like it's in their rear view mirror? To me it looks like it's splattering all over their windshield. Yes, they did great in the beginning but they are now experiencing ICU bed shortages just like everyone else. It proves this virus can get to anyone regardless of how good they think their preventative measures are.

And my point is that the virus is spiking in many places all around the world. Not just in the America you hate so much.

You've expressed your opinion ad nauseum. We know your thoughts on this subject. There is no reason you need to reply to EVERY post in EVERY Covid related thread. After awhile you just become background noise.

I agree that it is true that CV is spiking in other parts of the world. It is NOT unAmerican to criticize one's own country. It seems to me to be the responsible thing to do. Everyone agrees that the US has had one of the world's worse responses to CV (if not THE worst response). There are ALSO countries that have had better responses to the CV. The US is # 1 in GNP and has some of the best Medical professions in the world - so, as such, would be EXPECTED to have one of the world's BETTER OUTCOMES (and it did not). I am, therefore, prudently worried about why that happened and about the future for the US. If someone can come up with a
good explanation of what went wrong - I, for one, would like to hear it.

I'm not real sure what you want me to stop, get over or move on from. :confused: Is it the fact that some people are determined to find fringe opinions from the small number of specialists that buck the vast majority? (Kinda like the "herd immunity" proponents?) Bad decisions and ignorance have cost the US hundreds of thousands of lives already. When people STILL cling to conspiracy theories and decide to discount the multitudes of Doctors & Scientists, it's difficult to just chalk that up merely as a disagreement...

Herd immunity, without vaccines, was a rationalization, a smoke-screen that ultimately left America weakened and confused about leadership, science, and a unified path toward fighting the Pandemic.

"When people STILL cling to conspiracy theories and decide to discount the multitudes of Doctors & Scientists, it's difficult to just chalk that up merely as a disagreement..."


Therein lies the root of a LOT of our problems. Until lately, I've never given much credence to the idea of mass hypnosis - but I am now a believer.

Does Mass Hypnosis Exist and How Does it Work

It's your right to criticize your country but the US is ranked 10th in covid deaths per million with Belgium being first.

Just for clarification, the US has the 10th worst ratio of Covid deaths per million in the world according to Statista, and similar positions on other sites. 403 Forbidden
While this doesn't exactly tell the entire story, it is a startling statistic in any case.

Arizona is now the #1 hotspot in the WORLD!

If 95 % of the people wore masks, then about 50,000 lives would be saved by March. That is even MORE than the vaccines are slated to save lives. Saving lives does not seem to get old to me and repetition is a helpful tool. For most people vaccines are about a year away. Wearing masks and repetition is here to stay - for a while anyway!

Hit the nail square on the head!!!

NY and NYC have a higher population density than Florida. And NY is colder with less opportunity to get the benefits of sun and vitamin D.

World travels though USA, Americans can’t wear mask or stay home due to that little thing called freedom.