[Villages Kahuna]

This is a video that should be viewed by all the stubborn anti-mask folks.

Please all you naysayers or simply stubborn folks out there, even if you choose not to accept that mask usage helps you stay virus-free, wear one in respect for the rest of us! Please, please.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

And look how well masks have worked already.

The highest number of cases is where everything is shut down and masks are required🤔

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

And look how well masks have worked already.

Masks HAVE worked really well to STOP CV spread almost completely in S. Korea, Australia, and New Zealand because those countries did NOT believe that CV was a hoax. They had nearly 100% buy-in for masks and started early, like January. The US did EVERYTHING wrong and late, including the wearing of masks. - It is still nowhere near the 90% needed - more like 60% as a US-wide average. So, now the end result is that New Zealand has a total of 25 CV deaths, and South Carolina (with the same population) has over 5,000 deaths. Go figure? And very good link Ms. CoffeeBean Person. I wonder how many more will NOT believe their lying eyes?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by billethkid

How can you tell?

Maybe they should be reporting with and without mask infection data....with and without masks new cases.....with and without masks death rate....

(Just kidding (I think).

I HOPE so.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tblue

Do we know how much of the virus is attached to droplets? Maybe half, maybe 70% maybe 10%. I have worn a mask for 37 years, it does not make me an expert, but I can tell you at times I had to place some tape over the mask at the bridge of my nose to prevent my glasses from fogging up when I would breath. So if some of the virus does attached to droplets then how much is just exhaled around the top of the mask, both sides of the mask, or bottom of the mask. Maybe some of the virus is trapped in the mask as you said, a very good thing, but everyone fiddles with the mask and reuses the mask. Watch anyone at Lowes, as they walk in, out comes the mask from their pocket or purse. When they walk out usually off comes the mask, back into the pocket or purse or the console of the car, to be reused. Has anyone given any thought that just maybe masks are helping to spread this virus? The answer is yes, some researchers have looked at that, and suggest maybe the masks are spreading the virus. Sorry I do not have it at hand. Look it up yourself. One last question that was proposed to me, if masks work then why are there not proper places to dispose of a used masks?

Just look at what S.Korea and New Zealand have done to understand the issue. Instead of "spinning the wheels" for REALLY other strange explanations to justify individual opinions on these issues. Whole other SUCCESSFUL countries can NOT be wrong. The Asians have more recent experience with pandemics than the US, whose experience is 100 years old. And New Zealand does NOT have whole TV channels devoted to propaganda and conspiracy theories.

[SugarBear]

Lol

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Scott O

Absolutely, and breathing in fresh air and not your own CO2 all day...I saw 2 people again yesterday driving around alone in their cars with masks and gloves on....wth....insanity...

Or maybe they have pre-existing conditions that REQUIRE them to take maximum precautions. See what I did? Some call that empathy, ck the dictionary.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

The reason for that is the massive NON COMPLIANCE of anti-maskers. Look at the big picture. Our bubble of The Villages is not a good example of the compliance of mask wearing. We in The Villages are a population of seniors so the compliance for mask wearing seems to be better than the rest of our country.

Yet worse than states and countries that MANDATE mask-wearing. See the results of New Zealand.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

I think this debate about masks has been beaten to death. Have your own opinion. Dont shove it off on everyone. Wear a mask if that is your desire and stay away from people or places where they arent worn. If you decide to not wear a mask, expect to be banned from numerous stores and businesses. Simple. Make your choice and live with the consequences. But lets move on in life and end the debate! Its old news!!

The news IS old news in S. Korea and New Zealand because they reacted quickly with masks and other quick reactions. It IS in THEIR rearview mirror. It can NOT be in the US's rearview because CV in the US is INCREASING. Until the CV is brought close to zero in the US, the subject of SAFETY requires mask-wearing to be at the FOREFRONT of mind and communication. Seat belts and speed limits HAD to be talked about until such time as MOST people were in COMPLIANCE with those socially needed programs. Safety personnel at local governments are key to COMPLIANCE by citizens. I don't understand the "John Wayne" mentality that SLOWS acceptance of government or CDC rules (in this case). I ask - merely - what is best for society - and will STOP asking (gladly) when the CV is OVER.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The news IS old news in S. Korea and New Zealand because they reacted quickly with masks and other quick reactions. It IS in THEIR rearview mirror. It can NOT be in the US's rearview because CV in the US is INCREASING. Until the CV is brought close to zero in the US, the subject of SAFETY requires mask-wearing to be at the FOREFRONT of mind and communication. Seat belts and speed limits HAD to be talked about until such time as MOST people were in COMPLIANCE with those socially needed programs. Safety personnel at local governments are key to COMPLIANCE by citizens. I don't understand the "John Wayne" mentality that SLOWS acceptance of government or CDC rules (in this case). I ask - merely - what is best for society - and will STOP asking (gladly) when the CV is OVER.

It is far from being in South Korea's rear view mirror. The bottom line, it is spiking almost everywhere in the world. Take a break and step off your soapbox for awhile.

South Korea, once hailed as early COVID success, sees spike in cases - CBS News

South Korea had seemed to be winning the fight against the coronavirus: Quickly ramping up its testing, contact-tracing and quarantine efforts paid off when it weathered an early outbreak without the economic pain of a lockdown. But a deadly resurgence has reached new heights during Christmas week, prompting soul-searching on how the nation sleepwalked into a crisis.

The 1,241 infections on Christmas Day were the largest daily increase. Another 1,132 cases were reported Saturday, bringing South Korea's caseload to 55,902.

Over 15,000 were added in the last 15 days alone. An additional 221 fatalities over the same period, the deadliest stretch, took the death toll to 793.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

As has been shown with so many other subjects, there will be a core of people who will never be swayed by, and are actually allergic, to facts and the truth.

It is possible to sway or change some small number of opinions on the MARGIN. Small numbers often mean big SOCIAL changes and importance - take our several recent elections for example. Scientific methods and facts change or evolve - so can opinions. We live in times that call for examination and re-examination and the flexibility to change opinions.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

So I thought the same thing until my sister explained why she sometimes wears a mask in her car when she’s alone (yes she feels silly) my sister is a teacher, our mom needed to be driven weekly to PT appointment and because my sister works full time when she would pick up mom they would wear mask in the car together. Then my sister got to thinking if I drive 20 minutes to mom house then she get in the car mom is breathing in my sisters air. So my sister now wears her mask on the way to moms house. So you don’t know why someone is wearing a mask, yes I told you both are wear in the car at the same time. She again said but my germs are still in the air and she felt better safe then sorry, moms 85 and dad is 90 so being overly careful makes since......and I have to agree

Great explaination.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Would love to know this guy's credentials and sources. Would also love his answer to how an airborne virus cannot enter your bloodstream thru your eyes and ears. I find it a bit humorous that those who adamantly demand mask wearing by everyone feel it is ok to take theirs off while sharing a table at a public restaurant. Apparently they believe that the virus takes a break while they are eating and drinking. It also seems to not be present at massive "social injustice" gatherings and at parties and dinners attended by autocratic Governors. I just wish there was as much concern for those in Nursing homes being prevented from personal visits and hugs from family members; business owners whose businesses have been designated "non-essential; school children unable to have a normal childhood with social interaction and parents unable to go to work because their kids can't go to school. There is also no mention of the increases in drug abuse, overdoses, depression, and suicides brought on by this "isolation", as well as the increased risks to those who have had to put off needed treatments and surgeries that have put their health and their very lives at increased risk. The "cure" cannot be worse than the disease and you cannot destroy the lives of tge 99% financially, physically, psychologically and spiritually for the sake of the 1%.

Interesting - everything there is about 180 degrees to what I believe. One of us needs to reevaluate.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Is this person a Dr. or just someone that doesn’t wear a mask. Just wondering!

When someone fails to be able to debate the statements of another, they often find it easy on their own ego to simply attack the credentials of those making the statement.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Yes, the word "compliance" comes to mind. Americans like to "buck" the system, therefore, compliance in our country is dreadful.

Agreed Beanie, you are on a roll.