Talk of The Villages Florida - A "Voting Fraud" Thread

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No mail in ballots unless you can prove you are incapacitated. Vote in person except for absentee ballots for those serving in Armed Forces. All ballots must be in and counted by Election Day. No exceptions. Just my thoughts. There was definitely room for fraud in this election.

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Originally Posted by jjp2532 (Post 1856935)

Live in IL, never have I been required to show ID to vote on any level.

I have had to show ID always in NV, MN, CA and FL elections.

So what you are saying is let's talk about our political process without being political? Good luck with that...

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1856601)

There is a huge difference between significant voter fraud (which has never been found, anywhere or anytime) and it just taking so long to count the unprecedented number of mailed-in ballots, due to the fear of catching Covid standing in a massive line. Every ballot cast in accordance with the appropriate state law(s) should be counted, regardless of how long it takes. That is the very foundation of a Constitutional Federal Republic. A lot of people also forget, that election laws are a state right and they vary from state to state. Here's a good link that shows those different laws.

VOPP: Table 11: Receipt and Postmark Deadlines for Absentee Ballots

I think you meant every legal ballot. There is a bid difference

Similar to wearing a facemask to protect others from the virus.

So much for not bringing in you usual liberal point of view

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1856731)

What about when you show up without an ID and you use a provisional ballot? How can they create a specialized bar code for provisional ballots? Also, validating a ballot by comparing two signatures seems to me to be a very subjective and inaccurate method.

Yes, worse than hanging chads.

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1856702)

I believe there is both voting fraud and vote counting fraud.

vote counting fraud? there are both parties on hand to observe. there are cameras everywhere!

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1856610)

He's talking about mail-in voting, which requires you to not even be physically capable of presenting your ID to anyone. But it does require that your signature be on file (usually via your Florida drivers' license, which is now also a valid Federal ID, or in person registration to vote), so that the signatures can be matched when you sign the back of the envelope before mailing it in.

Considering that mail-in voting, *regardless of the reason for the mail-in, whether absentee or not* has existed since the Civil War, and considering that mail fraud has been negligible since, and considering that even when it IS discovered, it invalidates the fraudulent votes - thus making the actual votes valid and countable..

considering all that, mail-in ballots is not, nor has it ever been, a concern in this country.

In person voting HAS been a problem, particularly in Georgia and Florida, when a certain party did some certain things creating certain problems, and the subsequent attempts at covering it up were exposed.

So if it were me, I'd be more concerned about a certain party's attempts to subvert and corrupt the voting process at the polling places, and less concerned about mail-in voting.

I'm not all that concerned about either. The person I didn't want, took the Florida election fair and square. I don't like it, but I accept it. Hopefully, the people on that side will have the same attitude if their person doesn't win the final national result. Somehow though, considering THEIR history - I don't have much faith in that.

There is a big difference between mail in ballots and absentee ballots. To get absentee ballot you have to request it. One obtained you fill it out and mail it back. The case this year was that millions of ballots were just mailed out with no request. I legally vote in FL but I received a mail ballot from my old home state of MA where I still own a piece of property. So in effect I could have voted twice. I’ll bet there were millions of other similar cases. Absentee ballots are fine but the wholesale mailing of ballots is just wrong.

I doubt there is widespread fraud, but given the close races in some states it wouldn't take much to change the winner. We don't have a national election in this country. We have 51 different elections, all run by different rules and regulations.

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1856578)

If you are a U.S. citizen, you should be required to prove it with a national ID card issued by the Federal Government. Without that, we will continue to have voter fraud and other fraud related to citizenship benefits.

Wrong!:

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Originally Posted by jnafix (Post 1856653)

And all Americans citizens do... When have YOU or anyone that YOU know have ever voted without proper ID ? :ohdear:

My daughter voted in person in Virginia
She was not asked for ID.

In April 2020, a 20-year voter fraud study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004 percent — about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning in the United States."

If i have a bill that's due on a certain date and I miss the due date I pay a fine. Voting should be the same way period. Not in before Election day it's not counted that's your fine. ID should be required and if someone voted in one state a second vote should be rejected by the system. Dead people shouldn"t vote. Lastly how could the speaker say a week ago regardless of the outcome so & so will be sworn in in January!

Remember the fake dossier presented to a FISA court judge
to spy on a candidate in the last
election by a dirty FBI paid for by a certain political party . I believe a certain political party would stop
at nothing to win an election . Now is the time to audit votes , recount votes and get to the bottom of election fraud for all Americans . This is not Venezuela.
Make the folks that perpetuated a crime as an example with heavy
prison sentences and fines as an example. It’s important , Americans need to know if a crime was committed or not . We need to rid our government of corruption.