[Lottoguy]

Actually in PA the state Democrats wanted to count the votes early as they came in. It was the Republican controlled house in PA that decided on counting the mail-in votes on the day of the election. It is them that caused this delay. Why Pennsylvania is still counting votes after Election Day - ABC News

[jmpalladino]

There has been absolutely no proof of Voter Fraud, only conspiracy theories, and the instance by the Loser.

[Lottoguy]

Source for "no observers in some states" please? I can't find that anywhere.

[Lottoguy]

Yes, I too watched that FOX rebuttal on the NO OBSERVERS in PA. Such terrible lies from DJT that can only harm our country. We need to heal as a country.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Actually in PA the state Democrats wanted to count the votes early as they came in. It was the Republican controlled house in PA that decided on counting the mail-in votes on the day of the election. It is them that caused this delay. Why Pennsylvania is still counting votes after Election Day - ABC News

This fact was repeated on Fox&Friends this morning as with other Conservative-controlled legislators.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Somehow, I'm not at all surprised.

your name says New Englander, so you know how it goes up there. whenever a certain candidate pulls ahead, the counting mysteriously stops until they can 'find' more ballots. they usually turn up somewhere in Bridgeport, typically in someone's car trunk, & are all marked for the same person.
as for what is going on today? i see a lot of hanging chads in our future

[rferg40]

"Since 2006, five cases of voter fraud have led to criminal convictions in Colorado, according to a database maintained by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative research and education institution."

Colorado has used mail in ballots for years without problems. I don't know if these five cases involved 5 ballots or more, but it would be hard to pull off on a massive scale.

I believe a paper ballot mailed in is more secure and less likely to be tampered with than a voting machine hooked up to the internet.

The scale of the fraud that would be required to change the outcome of most national or state elections would be much easier through "high" tech than the "low" tech paper ballot.

[Conniehar]

In Illinois you do not need an ID to vote. Verbal confirmation of your name, address and DOB is all that is requested. And you receive a regular ballot - not provisional.

[OhioBuckeye]

Then the TOTV banned me a while back for my FREEDOM OF SPEACH for mentioning a certain party & the person who thinks they’re President & lied like H_ _ _ in the debate. The election was a joke!

[Maryland Girl]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

If Americans have "lost faith" it is almost entirely caused by false claims (like yours) of voter fraud. In the end, truth will conquer all the BS claims.

For heavens sake, I did not make up what I just wrote. It can be verified. This is not a partisan issue.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Maryland Girl

For heavens sake, I did not make up what I just wrote. It can be verified. This is not a partisan issue.

Would love to hear your factual basis for your claim.

Links, etc

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Hmmmm one side had perfect early mail in vote and perfect ID at polls , the other side had all illegal mail in ballots and fake Id ‘S at polls hmmmmm

Please supply a factual basis for your claims.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Maryland Girl

The problem is unsolicited mass mailed ballots. That is why they are looking closely at Nevada.

Briefly, in Nevada, as in other states, the voter rolls can be dirty, meaning they have deceased people and people who have moved out of state. Again, in Nevada, they mail out ballots to everyone on the voter roll. Multiple ballots end up at the same address because there was a person living there who is now deceased or there is a live person(s) living at that address currently. Also, in Nevada, they changed the rules so that the ballot is not verified by a signature. This leads to ballot harvesting; people, some of whom are paid by taxpayer dollars, can help the voter to fill out the ballot, and/or collect bundles of ballots. These bundles can be set aside and as the vote count goes on, they know how many votes they need to win so they just count more ballots from those in the bundle. There is photographic evidence in previous Nevada elections of ballots just laying out on the street and in the gutters. Especially along the strip. My understanding is that the lawsuit brought by the Trump administration in Nevada wants to prove that this type of mass mailing of ballots leads to systemic voter fraud across multiple states. This is how it may end up at the SC.

This is what happened in CA in 2018 (where ballot harvesting is legal) when multiple candidates for the House who 'won' their elections were later told they had lost. One rep. was even sworn in before being told they had lost. There was no push back on this so it continues. It is also what was happening to Scott and DeSantis in 2018. As the evening wore on, boxes of ballots were being found under desks, in car trunks, etc. in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. DeSantis cleaned this up, which was instrumental in FL having such a successful uncontested election in 2020.

It does not matter what party you belong to. Every citizen should be concerned and want fair elections with integrity. If they can commit fraud this election, then they can commit fraud in another election. That goes for either party. Remember the recent case in NC where a Republican was committing fraud and the whole election result was thrown out and the election held again. The American people have lost so much faith in their institutions and if they lose faith in the integrity of our elections, that is of great importance to us as a nation. We should all stand together and reject any voter fraud because it is not a partisan issue.

get these unsolicited ballots , are people suggesting without any proof but one mans claims that we should have a new election even when people in charge of the elections both Republican and Democrat say they have no proof of fraud . The whole world is not only laughing but appalled that the greatest democracy in the world is acting like some banana republic

[quietpine]

Maybe it’s time to overhaul the 230 year old Constitution. It was written as a compromise to institutionalize slavery and we have been digging out ever since.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Maryland Girl

The problem is unsolicited mass mailed ballots. That is why they are looking closely at Nevada.

Briefly, in Nevada, as in other states, the voter rolls can be dirty, meaning they have deceased people and people who have moved out of state. Again, in Nevada, they mail out ballots to everyone on the voter roll. Multiple ballots end up at the same address because there was a person living there who is now deceased or there is a live person(s) living at that address currently. Also, in Nevada, they changed the rules so that the ballot is not verified by a signature. This leads to ballot harvesting; people, some of whom are paid by taxpayer dollars, can help the voter to fill out the ballot, and/or collect bundles of ballots. These bundles can be set aside and as the vote count goes on, they know how many votes they need to win so they just count more ballots from those in the bundle. There is photographic evidence in previous Nevada elections of ballots just laying out on the street and in the gutters. Especially along the strip. My understanding is that the lawsuit brought by the Trump administration in Nevada wants to prove that this type of mass mailing of ballots leads to systemic voter fraud across multiple states. This is how it may end up at the SC.

This is what happened in CA in 2018 (where ballot harvesting is legal) when multiple candidates for the House who 'won' their elections were later told they had lost. One rep. was even sworn in before being told they had lost. There was no push back on this so it continues. It is also what was happening to Scott and DeSantis in 2018. As the evening wore on, boxes of ballots were being found under desks, in car trunks, etc. in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. DeSantis cleaned this up, which was instrumental in FL having such a successful uncontested election in 2020.

It does not matter what party you belong to. Every citizen should be concerned and want fair elections with integrity. If they can commit fraud this election, then they can commit fraud in another election. That goes for either party. Remember the recent case in NC where a Republican was committing fraud and the whole election result was thrown out and the election held again. The American people have lost so much faith in their institutions and if they lose faith in the integrity of our elections, that is of great importance to us as a nation. We should all stand together and reject any voter fraud because it is not a partisan issue.

I maintain that all our elections are honest and democratic, notwithstanding very few instances...ALL REPORTED AND INVESTIGATED

I am seeing no valid reasons for these false claims, certainly not on this forum, and not anywhere in this country.

Lateness of counting, and leaning of votes is easily and often xplained. I suggest that most of the "supposed" issues are the result of the GOP legislature in these states laws and rules.

If one side it committing fraud, they suck at it, because that fraud was not successful in so many cases on the same ballot as the accused fraud.