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Topspinmo 09-30-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779655)
The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.


Let’s see? Who in acted those jimmy crow laws? WW far far left of center.

John41 09-30-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1779226)

What happened to George Floyd was horrendous. But we don't know the whole story. But, we don't know that it was racially motivated. But it doesn't mean that all cops are bad cops or racists.

I'm sure that you wouldn't be happy if a group of these so called protestors set your house on fire because of the actions of one bad cop in Minneapolis.

Floyd was a violent thug who had a lethal dose of meth in his system plus a heart condition and essentially killed himself by fighting the police. The police followed procedure and a supreme court decision years ago prevents the police from either criminal or civil successful prosecution. Hope the cops sue Floyd’s family of miscreants for civil damages.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-30-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1841108)
Floyd was a violent thug who had a lethal dose of meth in his system plus a heart condition and essentially killed himself by fighting the police. The police followed procedure and a supreme court decision years ago prevents the police from either criminal or civil successful prosecution. Hope the cops sue Floyd’s family of miscreants for civil damages.

The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

John41 10-12-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1841239)
The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

There is a saying, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indite a cheese sandwich. The law is clear if you choose to read it. Like the other shootings all the cops in the Floyd case will be exonerated. Chauvin is out on bail. Doesn’t matter who is on the jury because a guilty verdict would be overturned on appeal if the judge didn’t already set it aside. Chauvin and those cops are heroes protecting us from thugs like Floyd who stick a gun in a pregnant woman’s stomach.

Stu from NYC 10-13-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1846565)
There is a saying, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indite a cheese sandwich. The law is clear if you choose to read it. Like the other shootings all the cops in the Floyd case will be exonerated. Chauvin is out on bail. Doesn’t matter who is on the jury because a guilty verdict would be overturned on appeal if the judge didn’t already set it aside. Chauvin and those cops are heroes protecting us from thugs like Floyd who stick a gun in a pregnant woman’s stomach.

Agreed but Chauvin does have some degree of guilt for his actions.

Some day one of these protests will be about a model citizens but so far a bunch of thugs.

BTW a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

John41 10-13-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1846706)
Agreed but Chauvin does have some degree of guilt for his actions.

Some day one of these protests will be about a model citizens but so far a bunch of thugs.

BTW a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

What actions are you talking about? Kneeling on perps neck? That allowable procedure was revoked AFTER the Floyd incident. Kneeling too long? No time limit is specified. You might FEEL Chauvin is guilty of something but the law must be followed not people’s feelings.

Lindsyburnsy 10-13-2020 01:37 PM

If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV

Joe V. 10-13-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1846912)
If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV


That is insane.

Funkman 10-13-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1779198)
Interesting how some posters who don’t like the subject matter of the original post, but can’t refute it, try to change the subject instead...

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1779198)
But if he was white, his story wouldn’t even have been picked up by the national news.

How exactly would one refute something that you are simply guessing about?

Unless, of course, you have a working crystal ball.

carlanddiane 10-13-2020 06:44 PM

Exactly
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1841239)
The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

Thanks, really does say it all

GoPacers 10-14-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1846912)
If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV

Absolutely NOT TRUE. There are multiple instances of a white male being subdued and dying as a result of a knee to the neck, back, etc. In every case there are extenuating circumstances but that doesn't excuse the behaviours of poorly trained law enforcement officers.

Google Tony Timpa. Called 911 on himself and instead of getting the help he requested he died as a result. Neither George Floyd or Tony Timpa was a threat to anyone but themselves until the police arrived.

Bay Kid 10-14-2020 06:39 AM

If druggy Floyd hadn't been so drugged out, passing out counterfeit money and resisting arrest, we wouldn't be talking about this today.

jimbomaybe 10-14-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779655)
The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.

Do you have all the "truth" ? , all evidence, medical, pathology, drug screens, past medical history? all available video? detailed explanation of that evidence that is highly technical?

John41 10-15-2020 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1847104)
Absolutely NOT TRUE. There are multiple instances of a white male being subdued and dying as a result of a knee to the neck, back, etc. In every case there are extenuating circumstances but that doesn't excuse the behaviours of poorly trained law enforcement officers.

Google Tony Timpa. Called 911 on himself and instead of getting the help he requested he died as a result. Neither George Floyd or Tony Timpa was a threat to anyone but themselves until the police arrived.

So you correctly say other perps have died resisting arrest by the same police techniques Chauvin used. But only Chauvin and associates were poorly trained because Floyd also died? Reread what you said. And how do you know Floyd was no threat when he was high on meth? The ME report says otherwise. And no credible expert would say a meth head is only dangerous to himself.
SOURCE The Meth Project
Methamphetamine has been known to cause extreme aggression, erratic behavior, and spark violence. Meth use can cause a host of changes to the brain that result in users doing things they would normally never do. Meth’s effect on the brain begins to make users paranoid of their surround

Bay Kid 10-16-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1847906)
So you correctly say other perps have died resisting arrest by the same police techniques Chauvin used. But only Chauvin and associates were poorly trained because Floyd also died? Reread what you said. And how do you know Floyd was no threat when he was high on meth? The ME report says otherwise. And no credible expert would say a meth head is only dangerous to himself.
SOURCE The Meth Project
Methamphetamine has been known to cause extreme aggression, erratic behavior, and spark violence. Meth use can cause a host of changes to the brain that result in users doing things they would normally never do. Meth’s effect on the brain begins to make users paranoid of their surround

There is a video of Floyd not wanting to get into the police car. Even then he kept saying he couldn't breath. He was out of control at that time and the police were being very nice to him. Floyd caused that problem and media made it our problem.


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