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kendi 02-27-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1908622)
I've read one from Israel, but I am not an expert or even a medical professional. I have however, stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
From what I got from the Israeli study, ingestion of the virus after being inoculated will kill the virus (spores?) so that you should not be able to contract the disease or communicate it to others.

If you ingest the virus the acids in your stomach will kill it. There was never a concern with that. Inhaling into the lungs or contamination through the eyes (which is connected to your nasal passage) was/is the issue.

merrymini 02-27-2021 09:13 AM

Just shut up about the virus and the masks, ENOUGH!

Waltdisney4life 02-27-2021 09:13 AM

Sell the fear !!!

kendi 02-27-2021 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1908871)
Why would you pay any attention to what the government says as they have been all over the place since this started. We are adults and need to do what we feel. Over the last year I almost never wear a mask anywhere and I guarantee you once I have my second shot of the vaccine, my mask will go in the trash for good. I’m not gonna walk around looking like an idiot for the rest of my life. Just heard on epidemiologists yesterday morning on TV say that 95% of the masks that people are wearing are worthless and nothing more than a psychological Comfort. I’m done with all of it

Totally agree that 95% of masks are worthless.

Jerseyborn 02-27-2021 09:19 AM

From my nephew (ER physician in Massachusetts):

Interesting tidbits on covid 19

Studies pending peer review (per Fauci) show the following:

Pfizer and Moderna are effective vs SA and UK variants. SA may have less antibody that’s effective, but it’s still effective nonetheless.

The vaccine lowers risk of death by 99%. With half a million Americans dead from this, that’s enormous. It prevents the disease at a 95% clip. There are many, many people who didn’t die but have long term effects from covid. 95% prevention should limit the long hauler syndrome. And those who get the disease who’ve been vaccinated carry a far lower viral load as to potentially not be contagious. That would also lend credence to the theory that if you get the vaccine, you’re not going to be a “silent carrier”, something that hasn’t been debunked as of yet.

Very intrigued to see the data on this, but if the above is true and stands up to scrutiny, then my expectation is that we have the vehicle to stop this pandemic and eventually get back to normal. It will take a long time to do so as the manufacturing of the vaccine is taking time and the delivery on a state by state basis has been rocky. No data yet on how long the immunity from the vaccine lasts and I kinda don’t want to find that out anytime soon (that means that test subjects still show antibody to this day and onward).

Side effects have been limited to immediate post injection illness and usually resolve 24 hours post injection. I haven’t seen many case reports of autoimmune processes which have been reported at incredibly low rates with seasonal flu vaccines.

My only advice to everyone is we are in the home stretch, get your vaccine as quickly as you can and stay distanced until that time. Wait until two weeks post vaccine #2 and go from there. For now, us vaccinated need to mask up until the data is clear, reviewed and there’s a consensus on lack of transmission, but I expect that very soon. I look forward to a day when we don’t have to have covid on the brain for normal activities. Stay safe all

irishwonone 02-27-2021 09:21 AM

Thank you. So glad to never read about caronavirus again.

Fuzzy 02-27-2021 09:22 AM

Freedom
 
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Originally Posted by popbaby2 (Post 1908569)
Please wear a mask and continue precautions after getting your vaccination. You can still get covid-19 and pass it on. You would probably be asymtomatic.
Vaccination
1. WILL NOT Protect you 100%
2. WILL protect you from getting it bad and killing you

Pay attention to the SCIENCE!!!!!

Seriously, I wish people would keep their opinions and the science they wish to follow off this site.

Two Bills 02-27-2021 09:24 AM

We're having Chicken en croûte for dinner today!

lkagele 02-27-2021 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by popbaby2 (Post 1908691)
I'm not a yahoo. After vaccination, you have a 95% chance of being immune. But you can still get it (5% change) and pass it on, but its likely to be milder. As per this article posted by someone else.

Well, you may not be a yahoo but you certainly sound like a spokesman for some of the teacher's unions. We refuse to work until the entire world is vaccinated. It's not safe for the kids unless we get full pay while not working, billions of unnecessary tax dollars in the coming years and the elimination of all private and charter schools. It's for the kids.......

As far as I'm concerned, these teacher unions are nothing more than cowards and child abusers.

Heyitsrick 02-27-2021 09:28 AM

Have there been any studies on whether any of these vaccines prevent the "we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" calls? So far, masks and distancing haven't helped.

rlcooper70 02-27-2021 09:55 AM

People - if you are vaccinated you are not getting a severe case ... you are protected. Relax. The rumors are not real.

Bill14564 02-27-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ldivens (Post 1908922)
The science has been wrong the entire time. You have a 99.9% chance of recovery. If you are at risk stay home. Worry, fear and isolation are killing people and making them get Covid. That is science as well, many reports do your own research.

What science has been wrong the whole time? What do you base that on (studies, numbers, papers, anything other than facebook)?

Where did you get the 99.9% chance of recovery number? Please post a link to the source.

Spalumbos62 02-27-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1908937)
Just shut up about the virus and the masks, ENOUGH!

You do realize that people just pass by your childish rants with humor..not with you, but at you.

capecoralbill 02-27-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1908661)

My understanding,.................................... .............. , is that everyone who is vaccinated benefits from the mRNA vaccines in that they are protected from severe disease and death.
I did not take those efficacy percentages to mean that 5% of totally vaccinated people have no protection at all and it is if they were not vaccinated at all.

Coffeebean, You said what i was trying to formulate from my readings, thankyou for summarizing and putting it into words for Me!
This is 'golfing eagles' incorrect interpretation of the vaccine's efficacy in his post #2 above, here's what 'g e' wrote:

""And here we have another one. The vaccine will give immunity to about 95% of the people who get it. If you are in the 95%, YOU CANNOT GET THE VIRUS AND YOU CANNOT PASS IT ON
If you are in the 5%, It's like you never were vaccinated
.""

I wish 'g e' would to reply to your polite post.

Mfrench 02-27-2021 10:42 AM

You are stating that the vaccines will stop the virus from killing us??? How about the people who have died after getting a vaccination? Two friends of mine were told by their doctor that they must be vaccinated at a hospital since people have died from heart attacks after being vaccinated because they didn’t have access to resuscitation equipment. There are so many different , constantly changing , stories floating around that we don’t know who to believe! Who told you that people who get the vaccine can still get the virus and spread it to others? Fauci has changed his stories over and over again!! First he tells us not to bother wearing a mask because they don’t stop the virus from getting through them, then he says wear a mask to make people feel safer and now he tells us to wear two masks!! And you trust the information coming from this so-called professional??? How about the 50 medical establishments in Florida that were caught falsifying the number of covid deaths to qualify for higher Medicare payments? ( They classified deaths from auto and motorcycle accidents , heart attacks, cancer deaths and more as deaths from covid!!). When challenged, the constant excuse was “ clerical errors”. Why have the number of reported flu cases and deaths dropped to nearly zero?? Could it be they are also are being classified as covid cases and deaths? Financial profit is a strong incentive to falsify information. No wonder so many people have lost trust in any covid information coming from the mouths of so-called medical “professionals”. You may have received some of this misinformation as well.

jimjamuser 02-27-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1908574)
And here we have another one. The vaccine will give immunity to about 95% of the people who get it. If you are in the 95%, YOU CANNOT GET THE VIRUS AND YOU CANNOT PASS IT ON
If you are in the 5%, It's like you never were vaccinated.

So again, I'll re-post what I wrote on another COVID thread-----

Why does this idiotic rumor keep spreading????? Again, I challenge ANYONE to cite a reputable source for this nonsense.

Think of it this way-----why would all the "experts" be pushing the vaccines as the method of obtaining herd immunity and ending this pandemic if the vaccines did not confer immunity. Why spend billions on vaccines that only prevent "death" in the 0.3% of the people who would actually die from it. In fact, in a cold-hearted but social Darwinian model, why keep people who can spread the virus alive?

Yet , on just about every COVID thread, some yahoo pops up with the "the vaccine only decreases severity of illness and reduces the chance of death" Use your brains, please.

I agree with about 90% of what was said there. But, I believe that some people have been found the got their vaccine and had the necessary antibodies and then sometime later caught more CV and ended up in a hospital. I remember hearing that on one of the "normal news" TV channels. It apparently does not happen to many people. And there is still some uncertainty as to whether a fully vaccinated person can NOT spread CV. Most likely that IS true but, last I heard Medical Science was STILL researching it. That's why Dr. Fauci did NOT that to be absolutely true. He seemed to WANT to say it, but, he seemed to want more research done. He knows that his opinions get so much media coverage that he must NOT make educated guesses. The Japanese apparently have done extensive research on BOTH of these questions. The question of how long protection lasts is, also, still being researched. And the US may (?) get hit with one or more of the new variants. So, in summary, much is still unknown about the CV Pandemic.

dboyd29 02-27-2021 10:55 AM

Aw, it’s so nice to hear from the sheep. COVID COVID COVID, without COVID most people on this thread would have no reason to live. Their entire existence revolves around COVID. Meanwhile the non sheep are living life to its fullest, having fun, smiling without a mask, conversing with other human being while using common sense.
The sheep remind me of an earlier time in which leaders of a country said get on this train we are going to take you to a safe place. Life will be better there.

Tmarkwald 02-27-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1908759)
According to the government... If I get vaccinated: 💉💉💉

So, right there, with that first statement, you've quoted the government. NOT medical experts - the government agenda.

That kinda takes credibility off the table.

jimjamuser 02-27-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1908594)
Thank you. I guess there are those that the glass will always and ALWAYS be half empty.
Must be a lot of idiots out there if they are willing to get TWO shots, with miserable side effects, thinking that if they are around anyone infected that they will get infected but only get a little sick. Some folks should have to wear a sign that warns others that they do not use their brain to function day to day. It must be from Global Warming, I mean Climate Change, or is it Man Made Climate Change? Proof that some folks' wind mills have frozen solid, not just in Texas. :1rotfl:

This post is hard to understand. Is the idea to advocate that people do NOT get a 2nd SHOT of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine? If so, that is not wonderful advice. And the Texas windmills froze up because unlike the standard further north, Texas was too cheap to buy freeze-proof graphite/ fiberglass BLADES or have blades with heating elements installed. Texas screwed up!

coffeebean 02-27-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1908813)
Oh lord here we go again...as if we all need another dictating what to do with our lives...I thankfully get up everyday and go about my life, and have since all of this started...I am still alive and kicking. No vaccines, working daily, and enjoying life...

We are in the middle of a 100 year event known as a global pandemic. It is natural for people to discuss everything related to this as it effects our lives.

Honestly, rather than complaining about the subject matter that is very compelling to many folks, just don't click on the thread. Easy peasy.

coffeebean 02-27-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com (Post 1908827)
I truly feel sorry for you - to live with a head full of pure negativity and sorrow. I pray you find something, someone to help you thru your negative life and thoughts.

It is going to be a beautiful - sunny day - Spend time laughing and enjoying time with friends and family!!!! Watch the birds and wildlife play by the ponds!!! Enjoy gathering at the great events we have here at the Villages!!! Take that trip to visit your grandchildren or a friend you haven’t seen for years!!! Believe me, when the time comes - and you are really unable to do anything - you will have no regrets - only wonderful memories!!!

It is a great day to live and enjoy interacting - or just spending the day enjoying life by yourself.

Your attitude is the reason we are all in this mess. Thanks.


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