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GoPacers 10-04-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1842476)
Science is never wrong? Seriously? The very nature of science and the scientific method is to try and replicate the results of prior studies and hypotheses. Quite often, the original "science" can't be replicated. That's part of the process. That has nothing to do with "misunderstanding the data and drawing erroneous conclusions", which I guess is your way of trying to criticize this other commenter here.

Well, thank goodness we have omniscient scientists here at TOTV.

Wired.com: "Scientists Are Wrong All The Time...And That's Fantastic"

The referenced article says scientists are wrong, not science. Scientists are people. Science is not a person. You'll have to explain how science can be wrong...

Scbang 10-04-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackercraft (Post 1842909)
How do the masks prevent us from getting the virus?

It reduces numbers of viruses you are exposed to by stopping droplets that carries viruses. Statistically, less of viruses you are exposed to less of chances that you can get infected to CV. It's not really black or white, yes or no game. When virus overwhelms your immune system, you get infected. Let's wear a mask. You might still get some virus but you may not get infected.

Tennisnut 10-04-2020 05:37 PM

If I have Covid, is there anyone on TOTV that would like to go for ride with me? We could ride around the neighborhood and let everyone know that I am still alive.

TooColdNJ 10-04-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1842473)
. I’m looking forward to the day that people lose the paranoia and stop walking around with their face covered looking like idiots!

Vanity. Do you think everyone is looking at you in the first place? That’s one of the reasons people don’t wear masks... they think they look stupid or, as you put it, like idiots. Vanity isn’t part of the bigger picture here. Judging masked people as looking like idiots is very shallow. There’s also a middle ground between paranoia and flagrant disregard— it’s called caution. While tiny molecules may get through an ordinary mask, it’s comforting to know that just maybe we’re a tiny bit safer than without a mask. While the millions of molecules permeate a room with poor air circulation, or the people that spew many of them all over your maskless face, wearing a face condom and practicing safe breathing can help a little with hope that it might keep a little slower molecule from getting in. 😜

jimjamuser 10-04-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scbang (Post 1842907)
True, but what about your neighbors, friends or your loved ones you might infect unintentionally?

Let's just review some facts. I am not an MD but from a engineer's perspective.

One sneeze can spit out 3000 droplets traveling 200 mph and can travel 40+ feet.
Each droplet can contain 5000+ viruses. Everyone including very old and weak still has some immunity to fight off the virus even CV. If you caught 1 virus, you might still be OK.
It's numbers game, if you are in a proximity to a infected person without a mask ( not necessarily 6 ft but closer the worse ) your chances of catching CV dramatically increases even if you are very healthy. Then your are asymptomatic but still dangerous for the rest of the population because you are not aware that you can kill many others.

Asians have been wearing masks for decades. Not just for flu and cold but also for allergies. Just imagine someone sneezed without covering their mouth in front of you and you felt a droplet in your face. Even a healthy person can carry a lot of bacteria and/or virus.

So, wearing a mask protects other people from your germs. Also minimize number of viruses you might be exposed to. There is no 100% protection unless you wear hazard suit 24 hours. So, at this moment, nobody knows whether one has CV or not. Even when you have been tested negative for CV yesterday, you could have caught it right after that.

Let's wear a mask for humanity and for yourself.

Great post! Kudos!

jimjamuser 10-04-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tennisnut (Post 1842916)
If I have Covid, is there anyone on TOTV that would like to go for ride with me? We could ride around the neighborhood and let everyone know that I am still alive.

Good knowledge of very current events. Strange events!!!!!!!!

bob47 10-04-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1842910)
People who refuse to wear a mask have no regard for those around them. During the night time bombing of London, none of the Londoners broke the blackout by leaving their lights on by citing personal liberty and so putting others in danger.

Excellent analogy. Thank you for pointing it out.

Bucco 10-04-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1842921)
Good knowledge of very current events. Strange events!!!!!!!!

The last few hours are so typical of a period of our history that future generations will never believe.

Msdafliz 10-04-2020 07:02 PM

:coolsmiley:

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Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1842380)
There was a guy on TOTV that was arguing with everyone about covid-19. He came across as an expert with a prediction that by October 1st the virus would be gone and he wouldn't have to live like Howard Hughes anymore. I won't say who he is. He knows I'm talking about him.

Where is this expert now?

Where is his scientific analysis and predictions?

Sometimes science gets it wrong so listen to your instincts and protect yourself at all times. The virus can still hit this place hard just like it did the Whitehouse.


Chitown 10-04-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1842710)
Your advice is good except when you malign the Daily Sun who has never directed anyone to ignore advice from Scientists on Covid-19. And chitown. This isn't the seasonal flu. This isn't the seasonal flu. This isn't the seasonal flu. This ******* can kill you by choking you to death with thick mucosa that first makes you gasp for breath than suffocates you. This isn't the seasonal flu.

I get it, it can kill, it can make you hospitalized, it can make you feel miserable, or you may not have symptoms at all. 98% will not die, 90% will not require hospitalization. In my case I was tested positive on April 10 and had a fever between 100-101 for 1 week. I had a slight cough. And recovered. Several friends of which we are all in our 60’s have also had it and were either a symptomatic or mild symptoms like me. This Covid will be with us For 10 years whether there is a vaccine or not like the Swine flu and sars virus Are still with us and killing people.

talleyjm 10-04-2020 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1842652)
I feel so bad for Amy Coney Barrett who was asked to remove her mask before entering the Rose Garden last week. Who among us would have had to courage to not do that?

Now many people in that gathering are testing positive. I hope Counselor Barrett does not get Covid.

She had COVID-19 this past summer. She’s probably chock full of antibodies❗️

JimJohnson 10-04-2020 11:45 PM

I have learned that medical experts are correct and politicians are wrong.

Pamelah 10-05-2020 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapbas (Post 1842452)
Did anyone see the short clip when Amy approached the rose garden party in a mask, she was met by 3 gentleman, one I think was mark meadows (could only see back of his head), it then appeared judging by the look on her face and actions, that she was asked to remove her mask which she promptly did.

Awful! Whether this actually happened, it again shows the mindset of everyone in the Rose Garden cuddled up close without a care in the world. Don’t think this clip wasn’t shown to the world and once again, America is the butt of jokes and laughter. Don’t ANY of them have the gumption to say “ No, my mask stays on. “. ( maybe some did and they were escorted out.). I hope all the self righteous Villagers who say,” I have my rights!” Learn from this, but doubt any change. Call me a cold New Englander but I have no sympathy for any in the Rose Garden or the maskless Village people who test positive.

maggie1 10-05-2020 05:45 AM

You're Kidding, Right?
 
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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1842458)
All it teaches us is that you can’t hide from a virus! Mask or no mask! I don’t wear a mask as I know they are useless! We will all be exposed to Covid just like we are the flu or the common cold. Trump has no co-morbidities so he will be past this in a week or so, just like 99% of those that get it!
The media has done a good job of tuning much of the population into paranoid people!

I wonder if any of the 209,000 that have died from the virus would still be alive today if they had worn masks and maintained distance. Trump's age and obesity make him a perfect candidate for covid, which he has developed, and might be in worse shape than we are being told. Your statement has no basis in fact, and your cavalier attitude toward self protection just might come back to haunt you.

Bay Kid 10-05-2020 06:04 AM

We have learned it is a flu. Sometimes it will kill you.


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