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manaboutown 06-29-2020 10:55 AM

I like to keep things short and simple so I usually use white or black. The reality is that most folks throughout the Americas are of mixed ancestral heritage. It would be rare to find an American black who was 100% sub-Saharan African. Many whites I know have some American Indian DNA. My former wife was 28% American Indian. She is a New Mexico hispanic whose ancestors all immigrated into that area in the late 16th and early 17th century. The big surprise for her was she had a lot of Greek and Italian DNA.

Whenever I get a question about race on other than a medical history form I answer American whenever possible.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-29-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rzepecki (Post 1794387)
Or, more specifically, U.S. citizens. Citizens of many countries are “Americans”.

When you come back over the border from Canada to the U.S., they won’t let you in if you answer “American” for citizenship.

This is an excellent point. If you are from Mexico, and in fact if you still live in Mexico, you are American.

You're Central American, but it still counts.

If you're from or born and still living in Bolivia, you are American. You're South American, but it still qualifies as "American."

If you're from/born and still in Canada, you are also American. North American. Just like US citizens are North American.

People in the USA tend to be pretty elitist when it comes to that. They think they are the ONLY America that matters, and therefore everyone else from any other part of America aren't American. But they are.

taruffi57 06-29-2020 11:28 AM

Why can't they simply be Americans? It seems that they insist on dividing themselves from everyone else.

Phpb2 06-29-2020 11:44 AM

As foolish as “American Americans!”

Jim1mack 06-29-2020 11:47 AM

Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa. So aren’t we all Africans.

Jim1mack 06-29-2020 12:07 PM

I was a middle school teacher for twelve years before I retired. Four years at an 'at risk school' and the other eight at an average school. Kids are kids are kids regardless of their ethnicity or color. I loved and cherished them all.

TooColdNJ 06-29-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1794213)
Interesting how you inserted dots for an awful black slur, but thought nothing of just tossing in similarly despicable Jewish slurs as complete words. There's some irony here, too, as one of the terms you mentioned was used by prominent black Americans - Jesse Jackson, being one.

Oh, what am I saying...Jews never suffered in world history. It's not like millions of them were summarily executed - many after being forced into despicable conditions in slave labor camps. And it's not like many people still hold Jews in contempt. You know..."they control all the money", etc, or that there are actual countries that want to destroy Israel. Never mind. All's good.

Sarcasm is pretty hard to recognize. I wish people would state what they mean. Was
this serious, sarcastic, or passive aggressive?

Anywhere from 6 to 11 MILLION Jewish people were forced into despicable conditions and executed, and anti-semitism still DOES EXIST today, When the Pope, or whoever it was, told Christians that the Jews didn’t really kill Christ. It was similar to. .”jury please disregard the question/answer.” In a court of law. People believe what is taught and learned at home. Jews are to this day STILL held in contempt. Your last statement— that “Jews control all the money” just added another level of contempt I feel towards you. Were you the one with your fist in the air yelling White SUPREMACY??

FURTHERMORE, I feel that stores selling indoor and outdoor plants without their real names should remove the labels from WANDERING JEWS and label it with its real botanical name.

Denvercane 06-29-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1793740)
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

There are no such people. Jessie Jackson started this term years ago. You are black white Asian etc. Unless you want everyone to have a hypen in front of "American".

fdpaq0580 06-29-2020 01:26 PM

Sarcasm, I'm thinking.
 
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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1794599)
Sarcasm is pretty hard to recognize. I wish people would state what they mean. Was
this serious, sarcastic, or passive aggressive?

Anywhere from 6 to 11 MILLION Jewish people were forced into despicable conditions and executed, and anti-semitism still DOES EXIST today, When the Pope, or whoever it was, told Christians that the Jews didn’t really kill Christ. It was similar to. .”jury please disregard the question/answer.” In a court of law. People believe what is taught and learned at home. Jews are to this day STILL held in contempt. Your last statement— that “Jews control all the money” just added another level of contempt I feel towards you. Were you the one with your fist in the air yelling White SUPREMACY??

FURTHERMORE, I feel that stores selling indoor and outdoor plants without their real names should remove the labels from WANDERING JEWS and label it with its real botanical name.

I'm pretty sure it is meant as sarcasm in an attempt to point out that there is plenty of prejudice to go around from all sides. No single group of people have a monopoly on prejudice or being the victim of prejudice. Injustice and prejudice goes back to human kinds earliest time. It comes in many forms, not just racial. Many people are exposed to it every day, but make the choice to " consider the source" as being unworthy of a response. They realize that prejudice and bigotry is the result of a closed mind that has been poorly socialized and educated. They go about their day and refuse to get sucked into a no win argument with a fool.
We see stereotypes every day and every where.
Did you ever watch "Tool Time" or "In Living Color"? I enjoyed those shows and others like them, and I liked them on many levels. By facing the stereotype they showed the silliness of prejudice and they took the sting out of it by trying to get us to look, really look at ourselves and to realize just how alike we all are. After all, we are all branches on the same family tree. And, because we are family, we need to learn how to live together.

Stay safe. Stay well. Keep up the dialog in the hopes we can all learn something. Peace!

GOLFER54 06-29-2020 01:43 PM

African American ? If you are Black and born in America you are American. Not African American. There are no ties from Africa. I am Italian, not Italian American, just American.

manaboutown 06-29-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim1mack (Post 1794569)
Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa. So aren’t we all Africans.

Homo sapiens originated and evolved in Africa. But over the last few hundred thousand years groups repeatedly left Africa and settled the rest of the planet. Over time each group evolved some of its own distinctive characteristics. Studies of DNA continue to be done and more is learned all the time.

Right now I am reading a fascinating book on this subject written by Charles Murray, "Human Diversity".

Barborv 06-29-2020 02:05 PM

There are many people here in the US that are from the Islands and not from african decent. I might have more African in me then some black folks. My ancestry has african descent for me, which most people, especially Jewish people might have. Egypt is in Africa and many Jews came from there. I just wish people would see people for who they are and not what they are!

camaguey48 06-29-2020 04:18 PM

It’s not “if.” It is.

davem4616 06-29-2020 07:15 PM

apparently that term is now 'gone with the wind'

donassaid 06-29-2020 08:06 PM

I choose to use the term black for two reasons. I don't believe in "hyphenated Americans". If you want to be called African, go back to Africa. Secondly, because few if any blacks today are of African descent. We are all AMERICANS. not Arab-Americans, not Italian-Americans, not Spanish -Amerucans, just Amerucans


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