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Jayhawk 06-27-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gregcharlesnelson@gmail (Post 1792774)
How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

Kind of like North Dakota, right?

ColdNoMore 06-27-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1792902)
Your OP never used the word charity. Why now?

Sounds like you just want to not be part of the solution, preferring to maintain segregation as your comments about Koreans in KY suggest.

It is not the responsibility of blacks to help blacks any more than gays helping gays or women helping women.

We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudice is minimized.

It starts with each if us acknowledging that we all are part of the problem when we allow others to act upon their racism.


Well stated! :thumbup:


That is the issue...in a nutshell!
:boom:


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Number 10 GI 06-27-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by parchiba49 (Post 1792858)
Guess one of your best friends is black also!
My dad was a truck driver, local only as they would not hire him for over-the road. "Get out, get a job. There's plenty out there if you're not too lazy...". Something I regularly do, as I drive, is notice how few, if any, blacks you see on road crews. If you do see them, they are the ones holding the flag for stop or slow. Is that because they are too lazy, or the company won't train them for the manual labor jobs higher up on the pay scale? Not easy to work your way up when there are no rungs on the ladder and thorns lining the poles! Some of you could use a course on thinking outside the box to learn how to walk in other people's shoes and get outside of your own narrow head.

If you would get outside the bubble you will see many black and women truck drivers on the interstate highways. I see all kinds of blacks working in construction here in TV. Go into any government office and you will see a greater percentage of black employees than they represent in the total population. I've seen a lot of white guys holding those stop and go signs. Your view is extremely narrow as you never see the successful blacks who overcame far more obstacles. But that ruins the narrative that blacks can't be successful doesn't it.

dewilson58 06-27-2020 08:08 AM

Not sure if this is the same point as the OP.......but I find it interesting that famous, rich, influential black Hollywood folks are not vocal about racism lately or even in the last few years. ( I classify most Hollywood folks as liberal.....jus my opin)



Why aren't those people who might have the ears of others, the money to spend, the time to invest out fighting racism?? Posting a Instagram is worthless.



There have been may black people of influence posting videos blaming the protested issues on black people themselves. As an example, Morgan Freeman has not hide his opinion.




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Number 10 GI 06-27-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gregcharlesnelson@gmail (Post 1792774)
How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

I believe you will have to ask blacks outside the bubble why they don't want to live here. I've not seen any signs that warn blacks not to be here when the sun goes down. The only way we found out about TV was through friends that moved here and they found out the same as we did, from a friend living here. How does TV advertise living here by only targeting white people and blocking blacks.

rlcooper70 06-27-2020 08:15 AM

No offense ... but it almost seems that you are placing blame on black america for the issues of today ... the issue is the dog whistle that half cannot hear ... one narrative (yours seemingly) starts in 1964 with attempts at racial justice .. the other narrative starts at 1620. Advocates of one narrative seem unable to hear the other narrative - dog whistle analogy.

Blacks give to charities. Okay. And blacks in the inner city are in deep trouble. We get it. And every time a black kid is brought before a judge and given probation ... does he become unemployable in white society?

We got problems people - and trying to simplify and place blame (as does this email) ... is it a responsible form of communication to pretend the "other" side is irrelevant? Conundrum huh?

Number 10 GI 06-27-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1792902)
Your OP never used the word charity. Why now?

Sounds like you just want to not be part of the solution, preferring to maintain segregation as your comments about Koreans in KY suggest.

It is not the responsibility of blacks to help blacks any more than gays helping gays or women helping women.

We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudice is minimized. It starts with each if us acknowledging that we all are part of the problem when we allow others to act upon their racism.

I don't know where you got the idea I suggest/support segregation, take a reading comprehension class. I stated that a group of people that face some discrimination help each other and are very successful doing so. I know it's too hard for some people to understand self-reliance. It's easier to mouth platitudes instead of actually doing something.

"We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudiced is minimized." :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

aallbrand 06-27-2020 08:35 AM

Villagers -run your posts by a neutral party, you may mean well but this kind of talk is racist , Unless you are a person of color or a minority you have no idea what its like to be discriminated against . Rich people of color people do as much for people of color as rich white people do for other white people.

Kneeling during the anthem is not disrespectful to America it is done to try to end young blacks being slaughtered by law enforcement .

In my opinion the national anthem has no place in sports to being with .

As a Jewish Villager I can tell you the villages are full of great people but also have lots of racist. I can not count the times I have had other villagers make anti Semitic remarks in conversation with me , not knowing. I was Jewish.

How are you trying to help the world ?

Dust Bunny 06-27-2020 08:37 AM

Morgan Freeman has done a lot- Check him out

Haggar 06-27-2020 08:39 AM

Under the tax law passes a few years back couples were given the choice of taking a deduction for itemized deductions or $24,00 which is higher. (Higher for 2019 and even higher for seniors.)

Most couples I do returns for do not come up to the $24,000 but continue to give to charity, whether their own church or temple, American Cancer Society or whatever charity they ordinarily give to. I believe strongly most people give to charity not because they get a tax deduction but because they believe in helping others.

Large corporations also give to charities (such as Covid relief) not because they get a tax deduction but because it's part of their corporate policy. Even though they get a tax deduction and save 40% of their contribution in taxes it's still costing them 60%.

Veiragirl 06-27-2020 08:41 AM

Put your money where your mouth is
 
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1792639)
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.

How about Kanye West and all the Kardashians among MANY others .:bigbow:

dewilson58 06-27-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dust Bunny (Post 1792983)
Morgan Freeman has done a lot- Check him out




Oh I have. His quote, making it a bigger issue than it needs to be......


Morgan Freeman on race...and his birthday - YouTube

parchiba49 06-27-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1792928)
If you would get outside the bubble you will see many black and women truck drivers on the interstate highways. I see all kinds of blacks working in construction here in TV. Go into any government office and you will see a greater percentage of black employees than they represent in the total population. I've seen a lot of white guys holding those stop and go signs. Your view is extremely narrow as you never see the successful blacks who overcame far more obstacles. But that ruins the narrative that blacks can't be successful doesn't it.

I was commenting primarily on the 'get a job...too lazy' post. I know we are out there though those government jobs are not the highest on the pay scale either but at least they are working with benefits. Ridiculous comment that you see whites holding the signs, I did not say only blacks held the position. Go back to my idea to get out of your own head. How many blacks do you see working in TV businesses? I believe I heard The Villages had one on their staff of sales agents. Okay, maybe I don't see those who are in the restaurant kitchens, though I do occasionally see them cleaning tables. Sales people in visible positions in stores? Maybe a token to prove diversity. Hmmmm, maybe shouldn't post this idea, because I've not hit all the manned gates in TV, but I've gone through many. Never saw a black face. But wait, the head of Public Safety is black, and a friend of mine works for them - way to go Villages.

I see successful blacks every day here in The Villages, as well as in all the surrounding areas. In The Villages we are about 3-5% of the population. We are teachers, doctors, nurses, attorneys, CEOs, Veterans, IT professionals, homemakers, Realtors, blue collar, entrepreneurs, etc. Who do they see when I go into some stores here? A black that they must pretend to not be following because I may steal a trinket. Walk a day in my shoes.

ColdNoMore 06-27-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aallbrand (Post 1792980)
Villagers -run your posts by a neutral party, you may mean well but this kind of talk is racist , Unless you are a person of color or a minority you have no idea what its like to be discriminated against . Rich people of color people do as much for people of color as rich white people do for other white people.

Kneeling during the anthem is not disrespectful to America it is done to try to end young blacks being slaughtered by law enforcement .

In my opinion the national anthem has no place in sports to being with .

As a Jewish Villager I can tell you the villages are full of great people but also have lots of racist. I can not count the times I have had other villagers make anti Semitic remarks in conversation with me , not knowing. I was Jewish.

How are you trying to help the world ?

Thanks for an excellent post. :thumbup:


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oldtimes 06-27-2020 08:57 AM

Any good idea when taken to the extreme becomes a bad idea. This has gotten to the point that it is doing more harm than good.


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